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Found: Lost Dog Tags in Vietnam - Genuine or Fake?

By Robert Mann, Robert Maves, Ron Ward, Niels Zussblatt 
Originally published on HistoryNet.com. Published Online: February 24, 2010 
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Robert Maves, forensic anthropologist with Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC), sifts through a pile of old dog tags in a Ho Chi Minh City shop in 2008, looking for clues about the authenticity of dog tags being hawked in Vietnam. (Courtesy of Robert Mann)
Robert Maves, forensic anthropologist with Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC), sifts through a pile of old dog tags in a Ho Chi Minh City shop in 2008, looking for clues about the authenticity of dog tags being hawked in Vietnam. (Courtesy of Robert Mann)

As far as we knew, Elvis Presley had never been to Vietnam, but we found his dog tags and they appeared to be genuine.

The temperature was climbing in Ho Chi Minh City. It was mid-December 2008 and we were in Vietnam running down leads, interviewing local witnesses and searching for American crash sites and graves as part of the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC). On our off-hours a few of us worked what you might call the "Dog Tag Watch." My partners in Vietnam are language specialists and MIA investigators Robert C. "Bulldog" Maves and Ron Ward. Key to our efforts is personnel records investigator Dr. Niels J. Zussblatt, a senior analyst at the National Personnel Records Center back in St. Louis. I am Dr. Robert W. Mann, forensic anthropologist. As always, we were on the lookout for U.S. dog tags and went to a shop we'd heard was selling them. The shop owner pointed out her stash, and we began sorting through hundreds of dog tags, looking for clues about their authenticity. That's when we found two of the most intriguing of the many unusual dog tags that have confounded researchers throughout the years trying to solve the puzzle of the ubiquitous dog tag trade in Vietnam. They both read: PRESLEY, ELVIS AUS53310761 USA BAPTIST O POS. As far as we knew, Elvis Presley had never been to Vietnam. But the tags appeared to be genuine.

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This is a story about scientists, linguists and analysts working together in pursuit of the truth about the authenticity of dog tags that are being peddled today in Vietnam and how and why so many of them were left behind…or in the case of the Elvis dog tags, how they got to Vietnam in the first place.

Whenever we travel to Vietnam, our in-country team—Maves, Ward and myself—canvasses shops and vendors looking for dog tags, while Zussblatt searches through personnel files in St. Louis to corroborate the information stamped on them. It's an efficient working relationship that often allows us to reunite soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines with their lost dog tags.

I became interested in dog tags when I visited a small souvenir shop in Da Nang in 1993. My search and recovery team was staying at the Bach Dang Hotel along the riverfront, and in my off hours I visited the local shops in search of interesting items left behind during the war. My first visit to one of the shops next to the Bach Dang Hotel ignited my interest in dog tags because I had always heard that the vast majority of them were fakes, produced by some enterprising Vietnamese for sale to tourists. The problem, as I saw it, was that most of the dog tags for sale on the streets looked genuine; they appeared to be the same size, weight, appearance and metal composition as those issued to U.S. troops during the war. Most of the tags were rusty, dirty, bent, scratched, nicked, burned or torn. Still, I firmly believed that some Vietnamese were producing fake dog tags for sale to tourists after the war, and, from our many visits to souvenir shops, we knew that items could be made to look old and authentic.

To us, an "authentic" dog tag is one issued to and worn by a U.S. service member or Department of Defense civilian in Southeast Asia. In contrast, we consider a "fake" dog tag to be one either composed of locally made metals, or one that the Vietnamese stamped with incorrect information, specifically for sale to unsuspecting foreign tourists. But we've learned over the years that a misspelled name or other incorrect information doesn't necessarily mean that a dog tag is fake. These observations and unanswered questions led us down a path of scientific research in trying to figure out which were authentic and which were not.

Elvis Presley tags found in 2008 appear to be "genuine" to the Vietnam War era. (Courtesy of Robert Mann)
Elvis Presley tags found in 2008 appear to be "genuine" to the Vietnam War era. (Courtesy of Robert Mann)
What we knew early on, or at least what had been reported to us, was that the Vietnamese had gotten their hands on old addressograph machines that the United States abandoned when American troops departed Vietnam in 1975. Following this logic, the Vietnamese could have stamped the vital information on dog tags and then "antiqued" the tags by rubbing them on concrete, burying them in dirt or dipping them in acid—certainly possible, but a lot of work for a couple of dollars, especially if genuine dog tags were readily available. We deduced that such detailed biographical information on the tags could only have come from abandoned or discarded U.S. records bearing the names of GIs, their military service number (or social security number), blood type, gas mask size, date of last tetanus shot, branch of service and religion. Unless thousands of personnel or medical records were left behind in 1975, there does not appear to be any way such data could have been obtained.

Frequently, as recovery teams excavate aircraft crash sites and isolated burials, or as local citizens clear ordnance, dig a house foundation or cultivate their rice fields, a dog tag is pulled out of the ground. Not surprisingly, unless the tags are recovered by American search teams during repatriation work, they are typically turned over by the locals and sold for about a buck and a half each to the nearest vendor or scrap dealers passing through. The tags usually end up in small souvenir shops and street vendor stands, along with old Zippo lighters, compasses, eyeglasses, aircraft parts, belts, buckles, uniforms, jungle boots, U.S. canteens—you name it—to be peddled to tourists.

As researchers, we know that the best way to understand something is to systematically study it and let the evidence "speak" for itself. To try to get to the bottom of the matter over the years, we have interviewed many Vietnamese shop owners and U.S. service members, weighed and measured dozens of dog tags, performed elemental analysis to determine their composition and tested a few to determine if there were any traces of blood left on them. We have even superimposed dog tags purchased in Vietnam with authentic ones from family members and service members who survived the war and returned home.

Based on this work, we have concluded that the vast majority of dog tags being sold in Vietnam are authentic—the "owners" wore them when they served in Vietnam and were either killed in action, went missing in action or simply lost them before returning home. But what was the case with Elvis' dog tags?

Elvis' dog tags weren't the only unusual ones we found. From a batch of about 1,000 we've culled through on our trips to Vietnam over the past three years, we ended up purchasing more than 100 of them. They reveal the resourcefulness, sentimentality and unreserved iconoclasm of our soldiers through the practical names or creative—sometimes crude—messages stamped into them. These non-ID dog tags are what we call "gag tags," made for almost every conceivable practical reason and just for fun. The practice of using dog tags for purposes other than personnel identification was not confined to Vietnam, however, and even today, the military uses dog tags to tag such things as vehicle keys, building keys and tool boxes.

In our analysis of the Elvis dog tags, Zussblatt found that other than the religion, the information stamped on them was accurate. Elvis' personnel record lists his religious preference as Pentecostal, while Baptist is stamped on the tag. The format, spacing and alignment of the lettering and information on both dog tags are identical, indicating that the same machine stamped both. Elvis didn't serve in Vietnam and as far as we know never traveled there, so the Vietnamese would not have had access to his personal and biological information from abandoned or discarded personnel or medical files to then create a set of fakes.

We attempted to contact the Presley family and Elvis Presley Enterprises about the Elvis tags, but have not received a reply. Because Elvis Presley is deemed a "person of exceptional prominence" and has been dead for at least 10 years, and since a military service number is not protected like a social security number, the Army Record Manager gave permission to the National Personnel Records Center to fully open Elvis' record.

Zussblatt looked up Presley's military record. He entered the U.S. Army on March 24, 1958, in Memphis and served with Headquarters Company, 32nd Armor in Germany. Sergeant ­Presley was released from active service at Fort Dix, N.J., March 5, 1960, and was transferred to the Army Reserve (Inactive) to serve the rest of his six-year military service obligation. At the time of his discharge, he was single and living at Graceland, Highway 51 South, in Shelby County, Tenn….a long way from Vietnam.

Although there is no way to know for sure, there is the remote possibility that these dog tags were made for and issued to Elvis, and that he may have later given them to an American GI who carried them to Vietnam as a souvenir or memento. If, as we suspect, this isn't the scenario, we would put these in the category of gag tags, likely created by a prankster GI during the Vietnam War. While it is possible that someone stamped this dog tag after the war and "antiqued" it sufficiently to look genuine for sale to tourists, the circumstances in which we found the tags makes that seem highly unlikely. Since we dug the Elvis dog tags out of a pile of hundreds of others—rather than finding them on display or priced at a premium—the shopkeeper obviously didn't know their significance.

The shop owner told us that she began selling military artifacts and genuine dog tags 15 years ago and that people continue to bring in dog tags for sale from Cu Chi, Nha Trang, Bien Hoa, Da Nang, Hue, Khe Sanh, My Tho, Tay Ninh, Ben Tre and Can Tho. In fact, while I was there, a man delivered a batch of 20 dog tags wrapped in newspaper. The owner admitted she knew of one shop that started making fakes in the last few years to sell to foreign tourists. She said the small company in Cholon, which produces license plates for motorbikes and signs for advertising, also uses a machine to stamp out and curl the edges of dog tags, using sheet metal used for roofs and walls. The owner of the shop claimed she didn't like to buy fake tags, but that they often came in with batches of "old" dog tags, so she had to take them. While we've seen obvious fakes over the years, this was the first time we got solid confirmation that at least some Vietnamese citizens are producing them.

During his latest trip to Hanoi in 2009, Ward visited with a Vietnamese war memorabilia vendor he'd known for years named Trung. He invited Ward to see the dog tags he had at his shop along one of Hue City's tree-lined sidewalks. Not wanting to pass up a good opportunity, Ward purchased 27 of the more unusual tags. He then interviewed Trung about the dog tag business in Vietnam and was rewarded with an interesting revelation—another piece in the puzzle.

Trung explained to Ward that the dog tags which have smaller and shallower letters than those we typically find on "authentic" tags were actually stamped using a different type of machine at an American base in Thailand and issued to U.S. service members on their way to Vietnam. Despite the accurate information on them, the tags bearing those different stamping characteristics have long been thought to be fakes.

As Americans travel to Vietnam in increasingly greater numbers, concerns about the propriety of purchasing authentic U.S. property such as dog tags and other artifacts have arisen. In March 2009, American Andrew Wietecha walked into the U.S. Consulate General Office in Ho Chi Minh City and turned over more than 500 dog tags that he bought while visiting Hue and nearby Hoi An. The Michigan resident, whose father served in Vietnam, wanted to purchase the dog tags and try to reunite them with their owners. The consulate office turned the tags over to Maves at the U.S. MIA Office in Hanoi, and he passed them to me while I was in Vietnam. I contacted Wietecha to ask him to elaborate on how, when and why he bought the dog tags.

"I was very aware that buying the dog tags was only perpetuating the selling of war articles, which is a practice that I believe borders on being immoral," Wietecha said. "I also feel very strongly that any item that clearly has a serviceman's name on it should be repatriated to the respective government of the man who once owned that item. I decided the lesser of two evils was to purchase the dog tags so as to repatriate them."

I sent Zussblatt a partial list of the names on the dog tags that Wietecha had purchased. He then found recent mailing addresses for their owners and sent them letters explaining how they could get their dog tags back through the JPAC office in Hawaii. Within two weeks, we had received letters from seven servicemen requesting their dog tags back.

JPAC researchers screen metal debris at a crash recovery site in Vietnam in 2008. (Courtesy of Robert Mann)
JPAC researchers screen metal debris at a crash recovery site in Vietnam in 2008. (Courtesy of Robert Mann)
Despite what some say, our research has shown that the vast majority of the thousands of dog tags for sale on the streets and in the small shops throughout Vietnam are authentic—made in the United States or in Vietnam, stamped and worn by our service personnel who served in-country, many of whom were killed in action. The simple fact is, tens of thousands of dog tags were lost in the heat of battle or during medical treatment, and left behind.

There is no doubt that there are plenty of fake dog tags in Southeast Asia and more than a few shop owners who will say anything to make a couple of bucks. But, as we observed firsthand, Vietnamese shopkeepers regularly receive bags full of genuine dog tags that have been found, so there is little need for the Vietnamese to produce fakes.

In an effort to reunite the tags with their owners, JPAC is now entering the names on dog tags we've retrieved into its database and posting them on its website: jpac.pacom.mil, which provides instructions on how to go about authenticating and retrieving an owner's dog tag. (See below for details.)

To date, JPAC has more than 1,000 dog tag names on the list, and it has reunited 86 tags with their owners or loved ones. The firsthand details of when, where and how service members lost their dog tags is fascinating. Some were removed in aid stations when their owners were wounded, others were left in-country when GIs rotated out of Vietnam, others were lost when a dog tag chain broke in the midst of battle. Each story helps to solve the mystery of the dog tags left behind—and serves as a poignant reminder of the war and how it changed people's lives. H

How To Retrieve a Lost Dog Tag

The Joint POW-MIA Accounting Command's Dog Tag Project is attempting to reunite more than 1,000 dog tags that have been found in Vietnam with their owners or family members. An alphabetical list of the names stamped on these tags is posted on the JPAC website.

Go to www.jpac.pacom.mil and click on the Central Identification Laboratory (CIL) tab and select Dog Tag Project from the pull-down menu.

Those who believe their dog tags, or those of a family member, are on the list, are encouraged to contact JPAC via information found on the web site or call using their toll-free phone number 1-866-913-1286.

In addition to JPAC's project, Cana Mission is a private effort to reunite dog tags with their owners. The nonprofit organization was the brainchild of a Vietnam vet and his wife who have acquired hundreds of tags in Ho Chi Minh City over the last decade. Cana Mission's searchable list of names is posted at www.canamission.com.

Robert W. Mann was the Central Identification Laboratory deputy scientific director for 10 years before assuming the position of director of the Forensic Science Academy in 2008. Robert C. Maves is chief of the JPAC Southeast Asia Analytical Section. Retired Air Force Master Sgt. Ron Ward is the casualty resolution specialist at the U.S. MIA Office (JPAC, Detachment Two) in Hanoi. Retired Army Lt. Col. Niels J. Zussblatt's major focus at the National Personnel Records Center is assisting children who were born to foreign nationals and American military personnel uncover information about their fathers.
The views expressed by the authors are their own and not necessarily those of the Department of Defense or National Archives.

 


52 Responses to “Found: Lost Dog Tags in Vietnam - Genuine or Fake?”


  1. 1
    Tracy Mitchell says:

    Found dog tag with some sort of striker attached. It's a round plastic small like pill container, black plastic. Has a very small piece of paper inside 6 Jan. 61 15-R. serial #1980272. DT-60/PD. USN-No.bsr-63442-081.
    Dog Tag attached: HURD ROBERT T. AF12166367
    T54 A
    Is there any way to possibly get to a family member??
    The paper inside was written on with a pen and it almost appears slightly burnt like they used it to start a fire a very small piece at a time.
    Thank You for any information.
    Tracy Mitchell (Rancho Mirage, Ca.)

  2. 2
    Wade MacElwain says:

    The ELVIS PRESLEY dogtags found in Vietnam are "Fantasy" tags—probably made in the US and carried or sent to Vietnam. USA would never appear on a US Army dogtag of that period when Elvis was in the service. Also, the RH factor after his bloodtype was placed on US Army tags after the period these tags would have belonged to Elvis. They are absolutely not his dogtags. In 2006, Please check with Paul Braddock's book on US dogtags to verify what I am stating: DOG TAGS—A History of the American Military Identification Tag 1861-2002

  3. 3
    Gordon says:

    Is their a site or way to find if my cousins tags were ever found in Vietnam?Killed Jan, 6,1970 SE. of AN HOA,Marine 7th division,1st BN.Name was Frank M.Walker ,from Flushing,MI.Tags were never recovered.

  4. 4
    LISENBERY FAMILY says:

    Davis Coy Linn 352-04-20 I USN (P)
    We found a Military dog tag and want to give it to the family if any?

    • 4.1
      Sue says:

      Unless there is more than one gent with this name… he is deceased. I found his obit, and called one of his daughters and left her a msg. Will direct her to this page.

  5. 5
    Jade says:

    I have a vietnam dogtag with the name Charles Jackson Jr.
    his religion is baptist and social ends in 3227 . . . I cant make out the rest. Would love to get them back to him or his family

  6. 6
    Tim says:

    Hi Jade,

    Charles Jackson survived the war and moved to Charleston, SC. He owned a bar on King Street called Salters. Salter was his code name as a weapons officer in the F4 that he flew when he was shot down over Vietname. I was a cadet at The Citadel at he very much watched over me for those four years while I was there. I was sort of his adobted son while I was there and I was very lucky to have him as my friend. He eventually sold the bar and went to work for the government at the Navy Base in Charleston. He did have a son who is in his 20s at this time. I have lost track of him over the years.

    I know that he had a badly broken back when his F4 was shot down. He ejected and the pilot was lost. He was marched up north and was nearly killed by some local villiages, who hated the aircraft due to the bombing and the NVA did in fact save his life. His prison time was not a good one, as was normal of all prisoners. But, due to has bad back he was not treated as badly as those who were there longer. Also, because of his back he was released in the earlier batches of airmen.

    Eventually, he had to retire from the AirForce because of his health.

    All in all, Chuck is a wonderful guy. He truly is one of the best.

    Hope this helps.

    • 6.1
      Jade says:

      Thanks for the info!
      I believe the dog tag may be from an army soldier and you mentioned airforce. But I am not sure.
      Thanks again for the info

  7. 7
    Manh says:

    I have a US Military dog tag in Vietnam with the name:
    Sheaffer Russell L
    US51843163
    A- 297 46 3779
    PROT
    I want to give it to him or his family

  8. 8
    Tu says:

    I have a US Military it had been in my family for 25 years it was at my father farm in Vietnam before we move to American.

    GALLAGHER
    WILLIAM O.
    FR134409521
    O POS
    CATHOLIC

  9. 9
    Aidan says:

    Hi I have 3 Vietnam dog tags I want to return them but don't no how, can anyone clarify if they are real the first says a s follows:
    HENDRICKSON
    MACK A
    RA15817462
    opos (A Soc Sec number appears here)
    No preference-

    The next one is:
    TOMLINSON
    M.
    2591410. A
    Usmc. S
    Cath

    last one is:
    OSTINATO M D
    9145980 USN B
    CATH

    Thanks

    • 9.1
      Michael D. Ostinato says:

      Aidan – My name is Michael D. Ostinato and just received a call that you have my dog tags. To say I am shocked would be an understatement. I hope u r still on line. It's been 45 years since I was in Vietnam and do not know what happened to my dogtags. Please contact me. I would be most appreciative.

      • 9.1.1
        Mike Ostinato says:

        Aidan – I inquired about my dog tags on 8/27/2012 (see 9.1). They were lost in the DaNang area. Please contact me. I would love to get them.

    • 9.2
      MICHAEL D. OSTINATO says:

      Aidan, Just seeing if u are on line again. Please contact me!!!

      • 9.2.1
        Michael D. Ostinato says:

        Aiden or anyone who might know him. An email was posted on 9/12/2011 that he had my Vietnam dogtags. My last response was on 9/12/2012. So far no response from Aiden. I have had some responses from wonderful people wishing me well I would love to be reunited with my tags!!!!

  10. 10
    Lieke Liefkes says:

    I found a dogtag with

    46.916
    #CO.008.551
    CHUM.SOTTHAM
    28 12 59/V

    Name sounds pretty American, but the info doesn't look at all like yours.. Does anybody know whether this one is incredibly fake, or might it be from another country?

    Lieke,
    The Netherlands

    • 10.1
      Sue says:

      I believe I found his family, and have left a voicemail asking for a call back. I will direct him to this page.

      How is it you are in the Netherlands and found this? Just curious.

  11. 11
    Kerin Johnson says:

    My brother was Keith Collins Homberger, He was in Vietnam 69, and 70, We lost him a few years ago. They called him the big H.
    Anyone who knows him or might have found his dog tags, please let us know.

  12. 12
  13. 13

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  14. 14
    Tin says:

    Somebody was sellling me a dogtag claiming it was real.Does anyone know if it is?

    HIATT
    JOHN G (Or C)
    RA 11676545
    O
    PROTESTANT

    Thanks

    • 14.1
      cuong quoc tran says:

      I'm Vietnamese, came to the U.S. in 1975.
      On one of my trip back V.N., I came across some DOGTAGS.

      Example:
      SMITH WILBERT L.
      (A Soc Sec number appears here)
      O-NEG
      BAPTIST

      I have eight more. Please let me know a way to return the tags to their families.
      If possible, I would very much like to give the tags to the families in person.

      • 14.1.1
        Sue says:

        If you post the info we can try to help you find the people/families.

    • 14.2
      Sue says:

      It is probably real. I spoke with a gent tonight, and these may be his tags. I urged him to reply to your message in the hopes you can get them back to him, assuming he was the right man. Thank you for helping to do so if he writes to you on the board.

  15. 15
    Anh says:

    I have a dog tag with the ff info:

    GETER

    JAMES
    US51 670 517

    O POS.(A Soc Sec number appears here)

    PROT.

    Anyone can advise if it the genuine or fake one?
    ANH

  16. 16
    Pete says:

    found some dog tags in Vietnam back in 1992 when we were checking out the scrap metal sights. I'm guessing they are real we were in pretty remote places. How do I find the person they belong to.

    • 16.1
      Sue says:

      Why don't you go ahead and post the info so we can try to help you find them or their families?

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    Graham Brown says:

    I have a dog tag I would like to return to owner or family. bought Ho Chi Min 1995.

    Crosby, K.M.
    2107532 AB
    USMC M
    Lutheran

    thank you.

  19. 19
    Tamara Wes says:

    The picture is actually that of Dr. Bob Mann, Forensic Anthropologist with JPAC's Central Identification Laboratory. We DO have a Bob Maves employed here,but I can verify that picture is not his.

  20. 20
    Mark Brown says:

    A friend recently returned from a trip to Vietnam and gave me a tag that he purchased over there as a gift (same surname as mine). Not sure if it's genuine, but if it is, and if possible, I would like to return it to it's owner or their family.

    Info on the tag is as follows:

    Brown
    B Y
    US52977400
    O
    UMC

    • 20.1
      don kochi says:

      mark…i am curious to know….where did your friend purchase the single tag…and how much did he or she pay for it? the vast majority of fake tags were seen in SAIGON. did not see any fake or reproduction tags up north in central nam.
      don

  21. 21
    Kat says:

    I found some dog tags for a Robert E Edwards, AF, O POS Pentecostal with a NC social number. Would like to get it to his family

    • 21.1
      don says:

      where did you find this tag? AF = air force

      • 21.1.1
        Kat says:

        I honestly don't remember, I think it was in a box that I got at an estate sale.
        I've occasionally tried to find this person on the internet but have been unsuccessful so far.

      • 21.1.2
        don kochi says:

        it is possible a current issue tag….
        the us armed forces started using SSN as generic service serial number for all branches late vietnam war…..to current. it is difficult to period date your AF tag.

  22. 22
    don kochi says:

    PS-edwards is a very very common surname as you no doubt discovered while tracking this serviceman. near impossible to locate…good luck.

    • 22.1
      Kat says:

      Yes, it is a very common name with a bunch of Robert E.'s Maybe I could send it to the Veterans Administration and they could track him.

  23. 23
    Tasha says:

    I have two dog tags given to me by a Vietnamese war veteran while in Vietnam. If anyone can help find the owners it would be greatly appreciated!

    Hansford James
    RA 68 003 841
    A NEG
    495-56-3630

    85617181 BG
    B J MORTEMORE
    CHURCH OF ENG
    0+
    NONE
    2 SAI BN GP

  24. 24
    Nguy?n ??c M?n says:

    I'm living in Vietnam, my family and my village occupation is farmer. In the process of reclaiming and expanding cultivation, we accidentally found 4 remains of American soldiers scattered around the area and neighboring farming. Each remains one Dog Tag, Per remains weighing over 2kg bones, most of which are intact and stored carefully. I've scanned Dog Tags and uploaded on mediafire.com. You can download at http://www.mediafire.com/?3wrzzr66mxd4s3z with file Missing.rar. Dog Tags are as follows:

    1. WAUGHTEL
    GUY R
    US 51917356
    O P 195-38-8947
    NO PREF.

    2. HOLDERBY. GENE M.
    AF13890113
    T65 A POS

    CATHOLIC

    3. MUCCIARONE
    PAUL A
    US 51840640
    O 276 46 5918
    CATHOLIC

    4. ANDERSON
    ALVIN L
    RA 18744582
    O
    CHURCH OF .CHRIST

    If the bone sample DNA testing, please contact me to provide the bone. I send condolences and share the pain of loss. I wanted to see the real family of 4 remains. Are looking forward to your cooperation to repatriate the remains of U.S. troops. My name is Nguyen Duc Man, email cuibapvacuichuoi@yahoo.com. What mistakes please feel ignored. My English is not good, I was with the help of google translate. Thanks.

  25. 25
    hung says:

    I found two dog tags in binhthuan province,Vietnam. With the name: u.s cargo union made#295. 30.10.1950 reserved. Rutt gary p. 296 50 8755 a pos protestant. I want to know more info about them and i want to get them for him or his family.thanks!

  26. 26
    wayne says:

    hi this is the same but in Indonesia namely morotai island
    i was handed a single dog tag from a villager he wanted to sell it but i finally got it for nothing in the hope of returning it to its owner /family
    name as per below

    EASTIN,CHARLES J

    EIGHT DIGIT NUMBER

    DALLAS W EASTIN

    BLANK

    MILDRED COLO

    i currently have it with me
    i did do dome searches both these names appear to be already deceased so i was wondering how to get the next contact of the family

    morotai was where MacArthur hit the japs hard in WW2

  27. 27
    John says:

    I have dog tags
    The name Sabin Allen b
    Us52957261
    A neg
    Protestant

  28. 28
    ko241516 says:

    Dog tags

    Ledet Timothy,S

    last four of ss 5071 AF

    A Neg

    Christian-no pref

  29. 29
    Bdepeyster says:

    GROSS
    W.A.
    2198147
    O
    USMC
    CHURCH OF CHRIST

    Found near Khe Sanh.

    If anyone has any info please email me I would love to repatriate them- bdepeyster at gmail dot com (to keep spammers from stealing my email address)

  30. 30
    Ursula Sodosky says:

    I am in possession of 8 dog tags that I bought on the street in Saigon in the 90th. There are a bit rusty but you can still read names and information. I believe them to be genuine and would love to reunite them with their owners or the families.

  31. 31
    Paul Stoddart-Crompton says:

    Hi.

    I have 3 dog tags recovered from a shop in Ho Chi Minh City in the 90's.

    One of them bares my family name. Any help with tracing the owners would be hugely appreciated.

    Surnames first;

    Crompton Sedgwick-RA191349956-O Pos-Baptist.

    Bowman Hash-RA17245555-B-None

    West Bob-RA11760000-A-No pref.

    I'm aware these may well be fakes but if they're not I would be delighted to pass them back to their owners.

    As an ex member of the British Parachute Regiment and somebody who has \lost\ precious dog tags in the past, I know how much it would mean to get them back.

    Regards.

    Stodders.

  32. 32
    doc holyday says:

    Hello…I found this soldier dog tag : http://postimg.org/image/902lapzld/

    I don't have any information about him..if anybody recognized this sign please leave a message..

  33. 33
    Willy says:

    If I search for that SSN in public Social Security records on the Internet, it shows that Mr. Rutt died in 1991.

  34. 34
    Acid says:

    I found:
    MAY GARLAND C
    AF13819154
    T65 A POS

    BAPTIST

  35. 35
    mr mon says:

    I just find 2 dog tag bearing information:
    KEITH, JOHN L
    RA 14,384,318
    B
    R. ROMAN CATH
    SSN 156 28 5019
    if anyone needs to get back, please contact me 0084,973,313,660
    thank you

  36. 36
    Thane Thomas says:

    This thread came up just today on facebook, and I had to get into the fracas. While there a couple of years back, I visited the \War Evidence (or remnants) Museum- http://www.baotangchungtichchientranh.vn/ , and found a small basket of these for sale in one of the approved shops on post- 5 yankee each. Some are pretty well patinated. Some, like the Elvis model, are weird- \BILLY\, \REAR BUILDING 403\, \CAPT BOB [SOMENAME]. To my understanding, we were on SSN by then, yes? And what's with the rank, Billy, and an apparent key tag? A look around will yield lots of VN service ribbons- the yellow/red stripe- in various stages of decay. All those ribbons on BD? I don't know, not having been in on it then. Lots of their medals for Combat against My (that's us), Valiant Fighters and such, though I can see that at home. Also in gradual rust, rot, breakage. I wouldn't perseverate on the tags, esp with Elvis on them. A look around town betrays lots of fakes- especially watches- from the era. The metal GI Hamiltons are targets, but ones with LONGINES, OMEGA, some other marque on the face- sometimes with some mil-like number printed right there too- in the same style cases- even with the allied WD arrow on the face (that's WW2, methinks) kind of give it away. I did buy on the street one real-looking plastic Westclox, from 12/68, as I recall them to be made (really cheaply!). One has to give a look to the dynamic there. Souvenirs are one more thing to hustle, and with no 'Alcatraz swim team\ to do, the war is popular. I saw scooters with ammo cans for panniers and convoy lights for turn signals, new faked-up moto helmets looking like our GI with Dugout Doug's (yeah, him) WW2 eagle stuck on the front. At the museum, an aircraft had NO STEP DO NOT HANDLE LIFT on a flap (not just the \NO STEP\ you're used to- I don't now what handle lift is about), and a sign on the fuselage 'DO NOT PLUS OR DEFORM HOLES ARE WITH CIRCLE MUST BE SMOOTH AND CLEAN\. Hmm, something to be said for thoroughness, I guess. The fake thing is really popular in an environment not really known for innovating a lot, mostly by little opportunity, in the shadows of China, the USSR, France, etc. Stores are full of fake designer accessories and watches. Even apparently non-existent companies in my own trade are noted in articles online which, when looked into, simply have no real trail. Image is it. So- I wouldn't be at all surprised that GI tags are restamped, either from names on The Wall, records at Hoa Lo, or Elvis trivia.



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