http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-convoy-pq-17.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:03:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-convoy-pq-17.htm/comment-page-1#comment-114599 Paul Siebert Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:07:36 +0000 #comment-114599 It's deplorable the way history is being falsified so casually. Not only the Soviets kept thanking the Americans on an official level for the lend-lease program, they actually PAID for all that cargo that sunk to the bottom of the Arctic Ocean. As they paid fully for everything that was SOLD to them by the US during WWII. Yes, I said it right - tanks, fighters and bombers were not given to the USSR in a friendly gesture, that was in reality a commercial transaction. I guess there's a fundamental cultural difference at play here. When you are in the States, you dial a phone number and hear: 'How can I help you?', which in reality is a euphemism for 'What can I sell you?' Was it what the author meant? The Russians didn't say thank you after they paid for what they bought? Isn't a payment 'thank you' enough? Just for the record The Soviet Union never used US made tanks and bombers and the number of fighters was around 3000. Overall, according to Averell Harriman, US Ambassador to the USSR the US 'help' amounted to only 4% of the Soviet military industrial output from 1941-1945. So of course the Soviets were mad, 24 ships - 2/3 of the convoy sunk due to a cowardly decision to disband the military escort and they had to pay for it in gold! It’s deplorable the way history is being falsified so casually. Not only the Soviets kept thanking the Americans on an official level for the lend-lease program, they actually PAID for all that cargo that sunk to the bottom of the Arctic Ocean. As they paid fully for everything that was SOLD to them by the US during WWII. Yes, I said it right – tanks, fighters and bombers were not given to the USSR in a friendly gesture, that was in reality a commercial transaction. I guess there’s a fundamental cultural difference at play here. When you are in the States, you dial a phone number and hear: ‘How can I help you?’, which in reality is a euphemism for ‘What can I sell you?’ Was it what the author meant? The Russians didn’t say thank you after they paid for what they bought? Isn’t a payment ‘thank you’ enough? Just for the record The Soviet Union never used US made tanks and bombers and the number of fighters was around 3000. Overall, according to Averell Harriman, US Ambassador to the USSR the US ‘help’ amounted to only 4% of the Soviet military industrial output from 1941-1945.
So of course the Soviets were mad, 24 ships – 2/3 of the convoy sunk due to a cowardly decision to disband the military escort and they had to pay for it in gold!

]]> http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-convoy-pq-17.htm/comment-page-1#comment-93026 COMMANDER WILLARD BROWN Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:34:24 +0000 #comment-93026 I have a diary of the my voyage on the SS Bellingham . Is this of any interest . I was a Naval gunnery officer on the ship . I was on the ship for the return trip , as you know the all crew survived but the ship went to the bottom I have a diary of the my voyage on the SS Bellingham . Is this of any interest . I was a Naval gunnery officer on the ship . I was on the ship for the return trip , as you know the all crew survived but the ship went to the bottom

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