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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 15:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1). Native Americans have been repressed for close to 600 years.
2). They were practically forced to live on somewhat small reservations.
3). In the 1970&#039;s they were forced to assimilate to our culture.
4). In an effort to &quot;make them forget&quot; about our debt, the government has been pumping alcohol into reservations since before and during the prohibition.
5). The government purchased land from Native Americans and, due to inflation, is somewhere in the billions now.

I&#039;m sure you have probably done some research in the 4 years since your post, but a google search really saves the embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1). Native Americans have been repressed for close to 600 years.<br />
2). They were practically forced to live on somewhat small reservations.<br />
3). In the 1970&#039;s they were forced to assimilate to our culture.<br />
4). In an effort to &#034;make them forget&#034; about our debt, the government has been pumping alcohol into reservations since before and during the prohibition.<br />
5). The government purchased land from Native Americans and, due to inflation, is somewhere in the billions now.</p>
<p>I&#039;m sure you have probably done some research in the 4 years since your post, but a google search really saves the embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: e-papierosy</title>
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		<dc:creator>e-papierosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have come to realize that the Indigenous way of life is very much superior to the frantic, abusive, and greedy euro-centric prevailing culture. Quite possibly, that &#039;normal&#039; society will come to deperately need to learn the Native way in order to survive one day – and that day might not be very far away. In other words – &#039;what goes around comes around&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have come to realize that the Indigenous way of life is very much superior to the frantic, abusive, and greedy euro-centric prevailing culture. Quite possibly, that &#039;normal&#039; society will come to deperately need to learn the Native way in order to survive one day – and that day might not be very far away. In other words – &#039;what goes around comes around&#039;.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.historynet.com/what-do-we-owe-the-indians.htm#comment-820373</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apperciate what you are saying but I agree with the other guy.  What happend in the past was tragic but serioulsy people need to move on, especially the Native Americans.

Just how the Jews were killed and dragged from their homes so were the Native Americans except the Jew adapted they moved on and are a force to be reckoned with today unlike the Native American people.  

I&#039;m sick of people saying if it wasn&#039;t for the &quot;whiteman&quot; Native Americans would be better off. Possibly true, however, the Native Americans are now killing their own culture and themselves with this feeling of entitlment! 

They feel that America owes them for their loss and America listens and when they send money to help all it does is cripple. They have more opprotunities than propbably most people in the US but they sit back and spend their entitlment check on beer and bingo instead of going to college and getting a good career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apperciate what you are saying but I agree with the other guy.  What happend in the past was tragic but serioulsy people need to move on, especially the Native Americans.</p>
<p>Just how the Jews were killed and dragged from their homes so were the Native Americans except the Jew adapted they moved on and are a force to be reckoned with today unlike the Native American people.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m sick of people saying if it wasn&#039;t for the &#034;whiteman&#034; Native Americans would be better off. Possibly true, however, the Native Americans are now killing their own culture and themselves with this feeling of entitlment! </p>
<p>They feel that America owes them for their loss and America listens and when they send money to help all it does is cripple. They have more opprotunities than propbably most people in the US but they sit back and spend their entitlment check on beer and bingo instead of going to college and getting a good career.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Stutzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Stutzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 02:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I presume you feel no sympathy for the Jews then? I mean they got conquered by a more advanced people. Hell they wouldn&#039;t have their &#039;homeland&#039; today if it wasn&#039;t for some misplaced sense of guilt on the part of white Americans.

I also presume you feel that the United States was wrong to interfere in any war after 1783? Why bother to involve ourselves in the dinosaur killing of other peoples, right?

By the way, the term Indian refers to people from India. Why you feel the need to perpetuate the ignorance of Columbus is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I presume you feel no sympathy for the Jews then? I mean they got conquered by a more advanced people. Hell they wouldn&#039;t have their &#039;homeland&#039; today if it wasn&#039;t for some misplaced sense of guilt on the part of white Americans.</p>
<p>I also presume you feel that the United States was wrong to interfere in any war after 1783? Why bother to involve ourselves in the dinosaur killing of other peoples, right?</p>
<p>By the way, the term Indian refers to people from India. Why you feel the need to perpetuate the ignorance of Columbus is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Voldemort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voldemort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans suck. We stole Indian lands, then killed them with our diseases and guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans suck. We stole Indian lands, then killed them with our diseases and guns.</p>
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		<title>By: notsofast</title>
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		<dc:creator>notsofast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its very simple really.  One group of people lived off the land nomatic, roaming foraging.  This does not allow for large population.  Then along comes another group, with a way to use the land to support a larger population (farming, and industrialization).   The indians often resisted this, and held on tight,  Result confict, and losing lands.   Case closed.  Its over now move on.  Enough living in past, blaming this group or goverment.  The world is modernized, the planet has 7 billion people.  We all want to roam around on a horse and drink from clear steams,,  but its not going to happen.     Modernization is really what it was, just it came from the hands of whites. but also blacks, chinese ect who expanded the west and built the country to what it is now.    And dont forget in 1850s life was brutal and a crap shot for anyone on  the frontier period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its very simple really.  One group of people lived off the land nomatic, roaming foraging.  This does not allow for large population.  Then along comes another group, with a way to use the land to support a larger population (farming, and industrialization).   The indians often resisted this, and held on tight,  Result confict, and losing lands.   Case closed.  Its over now move on.  Enough living in past, blaming this group or goverment.  The world is modernized, the planet has 7 billion people.  We all want to roam around on a horse and drink from clear steams,,  but its not going to happen.     Modernization is really what it was, just it came from the hands of whites. but also blacks, chinese ect who expanded the west and built the country to what it is now.    And dont forget in 1850s life was brutal and a crap shot for anyone on  the frontier period.</p>
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		<title>By: subtleabuses</title>
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		<dc:creator>subtleabuses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Lake County, for instance, which has two state parks renowned for rich American Indian resources, a lawsuit drags on over a couple&#039;s landscaping project.

In 2006, the state parks department filed suit against William and Lee Ann Gilbert, alleging that the couple wreaked havoc in a state-owned conservation easement on their private island. 

According to court documents, the Gilberts bought 10-acre Indian Island in Clear Lake in 2002, which included a 1.5-acre easement owned by the state parks department since 1982.

The state contends the Gilberts ripped up the easement to plant grapevines, clearing natural vegetation and &quot;destroying&quot; a piece of American Indian rock art.

&quot;We&#039;ve got to let people know this is not OK,&quot; said Marilyn Linkem, supervisor of the parks department&#039;s Northern Buttes District.



Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/22/2974573/growth-puts-pressure-on-californias.html#ixzz165q2mON9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Lake County, for instance, which has two state parks renowned for rich American Indian resources, a lawsuit drags on over a couple&#039;s landscaping project.</p>
<p>In 2006, the state parks department filed suit against William and Lee Ann Gilbert, alleging that the couple wreaked havoc in a state-owned conservation easement on their private island. </p>
<p>According to court documents, the Gilberts bought 10-acre Indian Island in Clear Lake in 2002, which included a 1.5-acre easement owned by the state parks department since 1982.</p>
<p>The state contends the Gilberts ripped up the easement to plant grapevines, clearing natural vegetation and &#034;destroying&#034; a piece of American Indian rock art.</p>
<p>&#034;We&#039;ve got to let people know this is not OK,&#034; said Marilyn Linkem, supervisor of the parks department&#039;s Northern Buttes District.</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/22/2974573/growth-puts-pressure-on-californias.html#ixzz165q2mON9" rel="nofollow">http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/22/2974573/growth-puts-pressure-on-californias.html#ixzz165q2mON9</a></p>
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		<title>By: RAY CHANDLER</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAY CHANDLER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s politically correct (that repulsive term) to feel sorry for the Indians. Sorry, but I don&#039;t.  Theirs was the fate of any people conquered by a technologically and culturally more advanced people.  That coupled with deaths by disease that resulted from mere contact of the two peoples rather than some deliberate act.  This, according to some estimates, killed off as many as 90 percent of the Indians who died.

As for breaking the treaties, this is par for the course with any government. None can really be trusted, that&#039;s why the Founders set out to form one that was small, limited and non-intrusive. But I digress ...

The Indians, for the most part, simply suffered the fate of the dinosaur ... just suck it down and get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s politically correct (that repulsive term) to feel sorry for the Indians. Sorry, but I don&#039;t.  Theirs was the fate of any people conquered by a technologically and culturally more advanced people.  That coupled with deaths by disease that resulted from mere contact of the two peoples rather than some deliberate act.  This, according to some estimates, killed off as many as 90 percent of the Indians who died.</p>
<p>As for breaking the treaties, this is par for the course with any government. None can really be trusted, that&#039;s why the Founders set out to form one that was small, limited and non-intrusive. But I digress &#8230;</p>
<p>The Indians, for the most part, simply suffered the fate of the dinosaur &#8230; just suck it down and get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There comes a point when the world has to move past the &quot;an eye for an eye&quot; mentality, that time is now. 

Sorry if you&#039;ve found yourself with an unavenged poked eye at this point in history but if we ever want to have fairness we&#039;ve going to have to wipe the slate clean and not blame people for the sins of their ancestors and stop using the injustices perpetrated upon ours as a crutch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There comes a point when the world has to move past the &#034;an eye for an eye&#034; mentality, that time is now. </p>
<p>Sorry if you&#039;ve found yourself with an unavenged poked eye at this point in history but if we ever want to have fairness we&#039;ve going to have to wipe the slate clean and not blame people for the sins of their ancestors and stop using the injustices perpetrated upon ours as a crutch.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxy, Claassen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxy, Claassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am native and, have a college education. Now maybe if all the broken promises of the many treaty&#039;s had been carried through, our people would not have the burdens they have now. The US government put the military in action and signed on indian agents. way before the treatys. Not to mention the use of the Jesuits  and Christians to make us change our traditions. This is considered unconstitutional now a days. How many immigrants from over seas were forced to change thier religion? This being a free country and this a history article my main complaint is the way the white historians made it sound so romantistic regarding the Native Peoples. There are records held in Washingtonn DC. There are records held in Oklahoma and you have to personally go there to get copies. Lets start releasing some of that truth. I feel that these records should be available on written request. So that the Native peoples can publish that material. These people who are inn deed in the dark and unwilling to accept other race&#039;s should find an Island were they can be happy. I hear so much negative talk towards any people of color, then why are you in America? The downgrading of the very same people to whom the forfathers of this country brought here in the first place were used  as slaves. Because they didn&#039;t have enough of the Natives to do thier dirty work. My ansestors were used as house maids. So I guess we knew how to work back then and with the proper education our native children could prosper. But because alcohol was a favorite drink aomong the people who landed here could not resist in passing this on to who ever they wanted to rip off. So what now? Give us what is due to us so that we as Native people can build our communitys and have nice houses, parks, theaters, and creating jobs for our people on the reservations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am native and, have a college education. Now maybe if all the broken promises of the many treaty&#039;s had been carried through, our people would not have the burdens they have now. The US government put the military in action and signed on indian agents. way before the treatys. Not to mention the use of the Jesuits  and Christians to make us change our traditions. This is considered unconstitutional now a days. How many immigrants from over seas were forced to change thier religion? This being a free country and this a history article my main complaint is the way the white historians made it sound so romantistic regarding the Native Peoples. There are records held in Washingtonn DC. There are records held in Oklahoma and you have to personally go there to get copies. Lets start releasing some of that truth. I feel that these records should be available on written request. So that the Native peoples can publish that material. These people who are inn deed in the dark and unwilling to accept other race&#039;s should find an Island were they can be happy. I hear so much negative talk towards any people of color, then why are you in America? The downgrading of the very same people to whom the forfathers of this country brought here in the first place were used  as slaves. Because they didn&#039;t have enough of the Natives to do thier dirty work. My ansestors were used as house maids. So I guess we knew how to work back then and with the proper education our native children could prosper. But because alcohol was a favorite drink aomong the people who landed here could not resist in passing this on to who ever they wanted to rip off. So what now? Give us what is due to us so that we as Native people can build our communitys and have nice houses, parks, theaters, and creating jobs for our people on the reservations.</p>
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