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		<title>By: Jim Swift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I flew Connies with AEWBARRONPAC out of NAS Barbers Pt Hi and NS Midway Island from  1962 to 1965.

We used R7V&#039;s (straight Connies) for training flights. My favorite story is when I made a ONE engine landing. We were downwind to Runway 4 at BBP simulating 2 engines out (3 &amp; 4 at idle or &quot;zero-thrust&quot; ). Just prior to the &quot;180&quot; &quot;brrrrrp&quot; &quot;Fire Warning  No. 1&quot; OK &quot;Feather No.1, execute fire emergency procedures,. &quot;Checkpool 07 cleared to land R/W 4&quot; .

We fx&#039;d #1, held the gear until lined up, and landed...but forgot to bring up 3 &amp; 4!

R7V&#039;s were very sweet. The Wv-2&quot;s on the other hand were another story. As one instructor pilot told me in the landing pattern... &quot; It&#039;s like a helping a sweet old lady to cross the street...just don&#039;t be rough on the controls or she&#039;ll lean back...hard.&quot; Those 300 gallon wingtip tanks made her  quite slugish in roll and the flow around the upper radome required you to use &quot;top rudder&quot; in turns.

Nice article...brought back lots of memories.

Jim  Swift</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I flew Connies with AEWBARRONPAC out of NAS Barbers Pt Hi and NS Midway Island from  1962 to 1965.</p>
<p>We used R7V&#8217;s (straight Connies) for training flights. My favorite story is when I made a ONE engine landing. We were downwind to Runway 4 at BBP simulating 2 engines out (3 &amp; 4 at idle or &#8220;zero-thrust&#8221; ). Just prior to the &#8220;180&#8243; &#8220;brrrrrp&#8221; &#8220;Fire Warning  No. 1&#8243; OK &#8220;Feather No.1, execute fire emergency procedures,. &#8220;Checkpool 07 cleared to land R/W 4&#8243; .</p>
<p>We fx&#8217;d #1, held the gear until lined up, and landed&#8230;but forgot to bring up 3 &amp; 4!</p>
<p>R7V&#8217;s were very sweet. The Wv-2&#8243;s on the other hand were another story. As one instructor pilot told me in the landing pattern&#8230; &#8221; It&#8217;s like a helping a sweet old lady to cross the street&#8230;just don&#8217;t be rough on the controls or she&#8217;ll lean back&#8230;hard.&#8221; Those 300 gallon wingtip tanks made her  quite slugish in roll and the flow around the upper radome required you to use &#8220;top rudder&#8221; in turns.</p>
<p>Nice article&#8230;brought back lots of memories.</p>
<p>Jim  Swift</p>
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		<title>By: Del Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Del Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who has restored, flown, and performed maintenance on a Connie, I can truthfully tell you what a magnificient airplane it is.  Back in the early 90&#039;s, I was involved with a group of volunteers who restored a very sorrowful eye sore that was stored at the Camarillo Airport in Camarillo, CA.  The group was the Constellation Historical Society, and how we transformed this airplane to flying status is a true testimony to the hard work of its members, and after five years of this hard work, N73544, Lockheed c/n 4175, took to the air again in June of 1994.  It was a very emotional thing to watch pilot Frank Butorac and Flight Engineer Jimmy Jones put Connie through her paces that day, and I still get emotional when I think of that flight.  Afterwards, we put N73544 on the air show circuit where she was always a welcome sight, and we did that for almost eight years.  I&#039;ll never forget that time, and it became a family affair with my wife and I associated with Jerry Steele, Flight Engineer and his wife Joyce, John and Cheryl Arp, pilots Chuck Grant and Pat Farrell.  Today, N73544 flies the European skies for the Swiss group Super Constellation Flyers Association as HB-RSC, and she still looks as beautiful as she did when we flew her in the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who has restored, flown, and performed maintenance on a Connie, I can truthfully tell you what a magnificient airplane it is.  Back in the early 90&#8217;s, I was involved with a group of volunteers who restored a very sorrowful eye sore that was stored at the Camarillo Airport in Camarillo, CA.  The group was the Constellation Historical Society, and how we transformed this airplane to flying status is a true testimony to the hard work of its members, and after five years of this hard work, N73544, Lockheed c/n 4175, took to the air again in June of 1994.  It was a very emotional thing to watch pilot Frank Butorac and Flight Engineer Jimmy Jones put Connie through her paces that day, and I still get emotional when I think of that flight.  Afterwards, we put N73544 on the air show circuit where she was always a welcome sight, and we did that for almost eight years.  I&#8217;ll never forget that time, and it became a family affair with my wife and I associated with Jerry Steele, Flight Engineer and his wife Joyce, John and Cheryl Arp, pilots Chuck Grant and Pat Farrell.  Today, N73544 flies the European skies for the Swiss group Super Constellation Flyers Association as HB-RSC, and she still looks as beautiful as she did when we flew her in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a small boy, my family would go to the airport to meet my grandparents, when they departed or returned from a trip. TWA was the carrier at the time, and all boarding and deplaning took place using outside stairways. We could see everything, from the passengers and flight crews, to the ground crews checking out the aircraft. But the best part, was watching the Connie&#039;s engines start, belching the smoke and fire that they were famous for, seeing the wheel chocks pulled, and then seeing her swing around as she began  her taxi for takeoff. The air blast from the big props was what I lived for, and all of this occurred as I stood with my father, behind a 3 foot chain link  fence. It was definitely a simpler time back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a small boy, my family would go to the airport to meet my grandparents, when they departed or returned from a trip. TWA was the carrier at the time, and all boarding and deplaning took place using outside stairways. We could see everything, from the passengers and flight crews, to the ground crews checking out the aircraft. But the best part, was watching the Connie&#8217;s engines start, belching the smoke and fire that they were famous for, seeing the wheel chocks pulled, and then seeing her swing around as she began  her taxi for takeoff. The air blast from the big props was what I lived for, and all of this occurred as I stood with my father, behind a 3 foot chain link  fence. It was definitely a simpler time back then.</p>
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		<title>By: George Kamburoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Kamburoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We took Connies over to Southeast Asia in 1967 for Igloo White, McNamara&#039;s Electronic Battlefield.   Ours were EC-121R&#039;s, and there were a few EC-121S models at Korat, as well as Warning Star models.  Ours were festooned with antennae like porcupines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We took Connies over to Southeast Asia in 1967 for Igloo White, McNamara&#8217;s Electronic Battlefield.   Ours were EC-121R&#8217;s, and there were a few EC-121S models at Korat, as well as Warning Star models.  Ours were festooned with antennae like porcupines.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In late &#039;69 or early &#039;70 a group of Spanish speaking gentlemen taxied up to the rear of the Capitol Airways hangar where we were beginning to dispose of our &quot;Connies&quot; and offered to buy one. The deal was made, the &quot;Connie&quot; flew off to ???? Several days later there was a news report of an &quot;Connie airliner&quot; bombing Fidel Castro&#039;s palace in Havana with 55 gallon drums rigged like Molotov cocktails. Anti-aircraft fire failed to bring down the aircraft which disappeared into the night according to news reports. The ex-Capitol Connie?????? Who knows, but we were quite good at maintaining and operating the much loved &quot;Connie&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In late &#8216;69 or early &#8216;70 a group of Spanish speaking gentlemen taxied up to the rear of the Capitol Airways hangar where we were beginning to dispose of our &#8220;Connies&#8221; and offered to buy one. The deal was made, the &#8220;Connie&#8221; flew off to ???? Several days later there was a news report of an &#8220;Connie airliner&#8221; bombing Fidel Castro&#8217;s palace in Havana with 55 gallon drums rigged like Molotov cocktails. Anti-aircraft fire failed to bring down the aircraft which disappeared into the night according to news reports. The ex-Capitol Connie?????? Who knows, but we were quite good at maintaining and operating the much loved &#8220;Connie&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Earles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 22:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...those of us who flew in the USN versions, called R7V&#039;s and EC-121&#039;s, were very fond of our &quot;Connies.&quot; One R7V (444) made so many belly-landings due to landing gear problems that she earned the nicknames &quot;cripple-4&quot; and &quot;flying w-ore&quot; for being on her belly so often...but they flew well and usually reliably.

...those of us who flew in the AEW/CIC &quot;Warning Star&quot; versions, called WV-2&#039;s and EC-121K, P, etc., served our country during both the &#039;Cold War&#039; (flying Pacific and Atlantic seaward extensions of DEW Line) and Viet Nam war...as night surviellance for the 7th fleet, ECM/Countermeasures all over the far east, or as weather (&quot;Typhoon Trackers&quot; and &quot;Hurricane Hunters&quot;) reconnaissance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;those of us who flew in the USN versions, called R7V&#8217;s and EC-121&#8217;s, were very fond of our &#8220;Connies.&#8221; One R7V (444) made so many belly-landings due to landing gear problems that she earned the nicknames &#8220;cripple-4&#8243; and &#8220;flying w-ore&#8221; for being on her belly so often&#8230;but they flew well and usually reliably.</p>
<p>&#8230;those of us who flew in the AEW/CIC &#8220;Warning Star&#8221; versions, called WV-2&#8217;s and EC-121K, P, etc., served our country during both the &#8216;Cold War&#8217; (flying Pacific and Atlantic seaward extensions of DEW Line) and Viet Nam war&#8230;as night surviellance for the 7th fleet, ECM/Countermeasures all over the far east, or as weather (&#8221;Typhoon Trackers&#8221; and &#8220;Hurricane Hunters&#8221;) reconnaissance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ltcol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ltcol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1971 while on the Civil Air Patrol International Air Cadet Exchange I flew into Berlin in a &quot;Connie&quot; with the seats facing backwards.  The plane was fitted with a bar and a steward...however being cadets the bar was closed to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1971 while on the Civil Air Patrol International Air Cadet Exchange I flew into Berlin in a &#8220;Connie&#8221; with the seats facing backwards.  The plane was fitted with a bar and a steward&#8230;however being cadets the bar was closed to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article bought me fond memories of riding my bicycle out to the Tampa airport and spend hours watching the planes land and take off. There was a back way onto the airport property and we would ride through the woods and sit right by the runways.  Often we would sit on the end of the rinway so that the planes would be right overhead. never gave a thought to being crushed. This was back around 1957.  I always thought the Connies were the coolest thing built.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article bought me fond memories of riding my bicycle out to the Tampa airport and spend hours watching the planes land and take off. There was a back way onto the airport property and we would ride through the woods and sit right by the runways.  Often we would sit on the end of the rinway so that the planes would be right overhead. never gave a thought to being crushed. This was back around 1957.  I always thought the Connies were the coolest thing built.</p>
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