Comments on: The Heydrich Equation http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 25 May 2013 00:50:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: DEW http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-787103 DEW Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:53:21 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-787103 Well, I guess I'm just late on the ball, since those corrections have been made all ready. Sorry about the reading slower comment. Well, I guess I'm just late on the ball, since those corrections have been made all ready. Sorry about the reading slower comment.

]]> By: DEW http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-787102 DEW Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:50:28 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-787102 There's no date error in the first paragraph. "In 1934, in preparation for the Night of the Long Knives..." And the first paragraph never insinuated that the night of the Long Knives was against the SS. It specifically said, "...Heydrich—then head of the Gestapo—drew up lists of rivals to the SS..." Rivals to 'wards' the SS, which would mean from the SA. Perhaps you all should read a bit slower There's no date error in the first paragraph. "In 1934, in preparation for the Night of the Long Knives…" And the first paragraph never insinuated that the night of the Long Knives was against the SS. It specifically said, "…Heydrich—then head of the Gestapo—drew up lists of rivals to the SS…" Rivals to 'wards' the SS, which would mean from the SA. Perhaps you all should read a bit slower

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]]> By: Mark H http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-759267 Mark H Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:56:22 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-759267 I have always thought that Heydrich's condition deteriorated after Himmler's physicians showed up and took over his care. When he first arrived at the medical facility he was sitting up and was coherent. Then his condition went downhill after Himmler's people arrived. Himmler was very wary of his subordinate, who was said to have a file on everyone in the Reich and even on Hitler himself. Himmler might also have been a little jealous of the Reich Protector. Suspicions about a possible Jewish ancestor kept Heyrich in Himmler's grip. A new book on Heydrich is coming out in late October called Hitler's Hangman: The Life of Heydrich by Robert Gerwarth. I'm anxious to read it in that Heydrich is the most interesting man in the Nazi Pantheon and may have some speculations about his medical care. I have always thought that Heydrich's condition deteriorated after Himmler's physicians showed up and took over his care. When he first arrived at the medical facility he was sitting up and was coherent. Then his condition went downhill after Himmler's people arrived. Himmler was very wary of his subordinate, who was said to have a file on everyone in the Reich and even on Hitler himself. Himmler might also have been a little jealous of the Reich Protector. Suspicions about a possible Jewish ancestor kept Heyrich in Himmler's grip. A new book on Heydrich is coming out in late October called Hitler's Hangman: The Life of Heydrich by Robert Gerwarth. I'm anxious to read it in that Heydrich is the most interesting man in the Nazi Pantheon and may have some speculations about his medical care.

]]> By: Peter http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-693787 Peter Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:16:59 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-693787 Gabcik name was Slovak Jozef (not Czech Josef) as he was from Slovakia. In Slovakia, 5th Special Forces Regiment is named after Jozef Gabcik. Gabcik name was Slovak Jozef (not Czech Josef) as he was from Slovakia. In Slovakia, 5th Special Forces Regiment is named after Jozef Gabcik.

]]> By: aburchyski http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-680991 aburchyski Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:36:19 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-680991 Thank you for pointing out the date error; it has been corrected. "SS rivals in the Nazi Party" was meant as "rivals to the SS in the Nazi Party"; it has been clarified above. Thank you for pointing out the date error; it has been corrected.

"SS rivals in the Nazi Party" was meant as "rivals to the SS in the Nazi Party"; it has been clarified above.

]]> By: Donna http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-679401 Donna Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:58:05 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-679401 An interesting article, though I wish it had included that the Protectorate’s fortresses and defensive line were the key to the “Maginot line” lock rather than “...the Third Reich's most important industrial centers.” while conceding that the armaments production proved peripherally important to the Wehrmacht, whereas Germany had its eyes towards colonization with the Protectorate. With that said, I appreciate your article is focused on Heydrich and the assassination. And a fascinating narrative it is. I would be interested in finding out what first-hand accounts you have encountered to provide such vivid blow-by-blow descriptions? I have read extensively period news accounts, as well as diplomatic letters and have yet to uncover such intimate details as revealed in your piece. I must confess, I am unaware of any personal journals left behind by either Gabcík or Kubis, or even from Heydrich’s deathbed. The question of the price paid by the vengeful reprisals against religious leaders, the intelligentsia, and of course, Lidice and Lazaki is such a difficult question. Morally how can one weigh as just the torture and death of others for an end result, whether achieved or unachieved? It was a horrific situation all around. The statement; “Instead of inspiring a wider uprising or encouraging the Czech resistance movement, the reprisals cowed the occupied country.” is not fully accurate. Speaking of the cost of the massacres must be tempered with the hope given and actions taken by the resistance, exampled by the Skoda armaments fire, derailing of German trains, and general, albeit sporadic unrest that occurred after the assassination and during the reprisals, continuing until liberation on 9 May 1945. There are many historic accounts of such resistance to the occupation, though I concede never outright rebellion, it was in no way Czech capitulation. With that said, your article is well conceived and highly engaging. An interesting article, though I wish it had included that the Protectorate’s fortresses and defensive line were the key to the “Maginot line” lock rather than “…the Third Reich's most important industrial centers.” while conceding that the armaments production proved peripherally important to the Wehrmacht, whereas Germany had its eyes towards colonization with the Protectorate. With that said, I appreciate your article is focused on Heydrich and the assassination. And a fascinating narrative it is.
I would be interested in finding out what first-hand accounts you have encountered to provide such vivid blow-by-blow descriptions? I have read extensively period news accounts, as well as diplomatic letters and have yet to uncover such intimate details as revealed in your piece. I must confess, I am unaware of any personal journals left behind by either Gabcík or Kubis, or even from Heydrich’s deathbed.
The question of the price paid by the vengeful reprisals against religious leaders, the intelligentsia, and of course, Lidice and Lazaki is such a difficult question. Morally how can one weigh as just the torture and death of others for an end result, whether achieved or unachieved? It was a horrific situation all around.
The statement; “Instead of inspiring a wider uprising or encouraging the Czech resistance movement, the reprisals cowed the occupied country.” is not fully accurate. Speaking of the cost of the massacres must be tempered with the hope given and actions taken by the resistance, exampled by the Skoda armaments fire, derailing of German trains, and general, albeit sporadic unrest that occurred after the assassination and during the reprisals, continuing until liberation on 9 May 1945. There are many historic accounts of such resistance to the occupation, though I concede never outright rebellion, it was in no way Czech capitulation.
With that said, your article is well conceived and highly engaging.

]]> By: Patrick Miano http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-678218 Patrick Miano Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:20:59 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-678218 And may I point out another error on the first page? The Night of the Long Knives was directed against the SA, not the SS. And may I point out another error on the first page? The Night of the Long Knives was directed against the SA, not the SS.

]]> By: Patrick Miano http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-678207 Patrick Miano Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:09:38 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-678207 Hitler himself chose Lidice at random as an example to the Czechs and all the occupied peoples.The allegation that it had harbored the assassins was a complete fabrication to give the Nazis an excuse to retaliate against innocent people. Heydrich was one of the few highly intelligent Nazis, and one of the very few who could presume to give Hitler advice. Had he lived, his counsel to Hitler might have prolonged the war by as long as two years, causing millions more deaths. Despite the cost, it was worth it. I know, "Tell that to the survivors of those who were massacred." I would, knowing they would not believe me. Hitler himself chose Lidice at random as an example to the Czechs and all the occupied peoples.The allegation that it had harbored the assassins was a complete fabrication to give the Nazis an excuse to retaliate against innocent people. Heydrich was one of the few highly intelligent Nazis, and one of the very few who could presume to give Hitler advice. Had he lived, his counsel to Hitler might have prolonged the war by as long as two years, causing millions more deaths. Despite the cost, it was worth it. I know, "Tell that to the survivors of those who were massacred." I would, knowing they would not believe me.

]]> By: michael http://www.historynet.com/the-heydrich-equation.htm#comment-675779 michael Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:24:03 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683784#comment-675779 Correct on 1934. Lidice was known to be hostile to the occupation and suspected of hiding partisans. Correct on 1934. Lidice was known to be hostile to the occupation and suspected of hiding partisans.

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