Comments on: Table of Contents – June 2009 Wild West http://www.historynet.com/table-of-contents-june-2009-wild-west.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:31:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John Koster http://www.historynet.com/table-of-contents-june-2009-wild-west.htm/comment-page-1#comment-52816 John Koster Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:19:22 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13680882#comment-52816 NB: Dr. Thomas Marquis, MD, the man Kate Bighead talked to, was hardly "the White Man's reporter. " He was medical doctor, physician on the Northern Cheyenne reservation, expert in sign language, and pro-Indian to a fault -- so much so that he certainly over-estimated the number of trooper suicides at the Little Bighorn to let the Indians off as easily as possible. My own mostly Lakota sources tended to boast about how many whites their relatives had chopped up. They saw themselves as the aggrieved party -- I think rightly so. John Koster NB: Dr. Thomas Marquis, MD, the man Kate Bighead talked to, was hardly “the White Man’s reporter. ” He was medical doctor, physician on the Northern Cheyenne reservation, expert in sign language, and pro-Indian to a fault — so much so that he certainly over-estimated the number of trooper suicides at the Little Bighorn to let the Indians off as easily as possible. My own mostly Lakota sources tended to boast about how many whites their relatives had chopped up. They saw themselves as the aggrieved party — I think rightly so. John Koster

]]> By: John Koster http://www.historynet.com/table-of-contents-june-2009-wild-west.htm/comment-page-1#comment-52810 John Koster Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:49:37 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13680882#comment-52810 I think I can beat the rap about living in a culture of racism because if you'd seen the three ladies credited as researchers in the article you'd know otherwise. I've got no problems with Custer loving two women. He and I are said to be "descended from the same caveman" whenever I displease anyone. However he couldn't have children with either of the women. CF Pages 34-35 of "Custer" by Jeffry Wert, a genuine expert. But I'm curious about how both George and Elizabeth could have failed to notice that Monasetah was half Irish. American Indians are remotely Asian people, and any contemporary Asian can spot a Eurasian in three seconds. We tend to forget what American Indians actually look like if we haven't lived around them and have only seen Hollywood movies with Victor Mature as Crazy Horse and J. Carroll Naish as Sitting Bull. Racial marks that are distinctly Indian are the short index finger, Mongolian birth bruise and a full head of hair at birth, and shovel-shaped incisor teeth. They also have black nipples and lack most secondary hair on the limbs and torso. Skin color varies and Cheyenne tend to be very light-skinned. I've seen Cheyenne full-bloods who spent a lot of time indoors and had virtually white skin but clearly Mongolian-Amerindian features including a mild epicanthic fold and pedomorphic faces among younger women. Custer drools over Monasetah's raven-black hair. If she were a 'breed her hair would have most likely been brown, but never blond. If Monasetah were half Irish and half Cheyenne she should have looked white once she got out of the sun, like Mrs. Joshua Prowers, a full-blooded Cheyenne whose father was killed at Sand Creek. She was once introduced to John Civington at a reception and said "Of course I know Colonel Chivington -- some years ago, he murdered my father...." I can't top that line, so I'll let it go. --John Koster I think I can beat the rap about living in a culture of racism because if you’d seen the three ladies credited as researchers in the article you’d know otherwise. I’ve got no problems with Custer loving two women. He and I are said to be “descended from the same caveman” whenever I displease anyone. However he couldn’t have children with either of the women. CF Pages 34-35 of “Custer” by Jeffry Wert, a genuine expert. But I’m curious about how both George and Elizabeth could have failed to notice that Monasetah was half Irish. American Indians are remotely Asian people, and any contemporary Asian can spot a Eurasian in three seconds. We tend to forget what American Indians actually look like if we haven’t lived around them and have only seen Hollywood movies with Victor Mature as Crazy Horse and J. Carroll Naish as Sitting Bull. Racial marks that are distinctly Indian are the short index finger, Mongolian birth bruise and a full head of hair at birth, and shovel-shaped incisor teeth. They also have black nipples and lack most secondary hair on the limbs and torso. Skin color varies and Cheyenne tend to be very light-skinned. I’ve seen Cheyenne full-bloods who spent a lot of time indoors and had virtually white skin but clearly Mongolian-Amerindian features including a mild epicanthic fold and pedomorphic faces among younger women. Custer drools over Monasetah’s raven-black hair. If she were a ‘breed her hair would have most likely been brown, but never blond. If Monasetah were half Irish and half Cheyenne she should have looked white once she got out of the sun, like Mrs. Joshua Prowers, a full-blooded Cheyenne whose father was killed at Sand Creek. She was once introduced to John Civington at a reception and said “Of course I know Colonel Chivington — some years ago, he murdered my father….” I can’t top that line, so I’ll let it go. –John Koster

]]> By: Gail Kelly-Custer http://www.historynet.com/table-of-contents-june-2009-wild-west.htm/comment-page-1#comment-51731 Gail Kelly-Custer Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:33:54 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13680882#comment-51731 My name is Gail Kelly-Custer: Displayed on page 29 is a windowed copy of my book,PRINCESS MONAHSETAH, The Concealed Wife Of General Custer, and a negative commentary. Is this a review from your magazine, or is it just another erroneous opinion by John Koster? If this was penned by Wild West, it is my turn to review you. When a person lives in a culture of racism, it does not indicate or require that all are the same! Look back to our own Civil Rights Movement. Some very brave White people aided in obtaining the enforcement of all civil rights, not just African Americans. General Custer lived in much the same category of rasim. Although, he was not a racist, as so many racist people choose to believe. Those same people can not, or will not comprehend that General Custer loved two women, one being out of his race. I and my family do exist, whether they believe it or not! Ironically, Monahsetah was one half White. And yes, she could speak English. General Custer indicated she could not so that Libbie would not be so jealous of his relationship with Monahsetah. Her mother was a White woman from Ireland. She had a Medical Doctor's degree. When she married Cheyenne Chief Little Rock, her name was changed to Medicine Woman. This is how Monahsetah could have, and did have a blond haired child by General Custer. To the issue of Monahsetah having only a dark skinned baby in 1869, the truth is she had two children in the year of 1869. She delivered Wooden Leg in January (named in honor of his father, whose leg was stiff, due to the fact that Monahsetah shot him in the knee when he tried to rape her after she had asked for a divorce). Yellow Hair was born the same year in December. This writer and descendant of Monahsetah and General George Armstrong Custer, believes Kate Bighead was bragging about her relationship with Monahsetah, to the White Man's reporter, as so many Cheyenne and Sioux did after the battle of the Little Big Horn, when in fact she never met Monahsetah. She did not live with the Southern Cheyenne on the banks of the Washita. Kate was from the Northern Cheyenne. Monahsetah did not travel to the north until that tragic time at the Little Big Horn. Kate's account of being at the Washita battle is preposterous! My name is Gail Kelly-Custer:

Displayed on page 29 is a windowed copy of my book,PRINCESS MONAHSETAH, The Concealed Wife Of General Custer, and a negative commentary. Is this a review from your magazine, or is it just another erroneous opinion by John Koster? If this was penned by Wild West, it is my turn to review you.
When a person lives in a culture of racism, it does not indicate or require that all are the same! Look back to our own Civil Rights Movement. Some very brave White people aided in obtaining the enforcement of all civil rights, not just African Americans. General Custer lived in much the same category of rasim. Although, he was not a racist, as so many racist people choose to believe. Those same people can not, or will not comprehend that General Custer loved two women, one being out of his race. I and my family do exist, whether they believe it or not!
Ironically, Monahsetah was one half White. And yes, she could speak English. General Custer indicated she could not so that Libbie would not be so jealous of his relationship with Monahsetah. Her mother was a White woman from Ireland. She had a Medical Doctor’s degree. When she married Cheyenne Chief Little Rock, her name was changed to Medicine Woman. This is how Monahsetah could have, and did have a blond haired child by General Custer.
To the issue of Monahsetah having only a dark skinned baby in 1869, the truth is she had two children in the year of 1869. She delivered Wooden Leg in January (named in honor of his father, whose leg was stiff, due to the fact that Monahsetah shot him in the knee when he tried to rape her after she had asked for a divorce). Yellow Hair was born the same year in December.
This writer and descendant of Monahsetah and General George Armstrong Custer, believes Kate Bighead was bragging about her relationship with Monahsetah, to the White Man’s reporter, as so many Cheyenne and Sioux did after the battle of the Little Big Horn, when in fact she never met Monahsetah. She did not live with the Southern Cheyenne on the banks of the Washita. Kate was from the Northern Cheyenne. Monahsetah did not travel to the north until that tragic time at the Little Big Horn. Kate’s account of being at the Washita battle is preposterous!

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