Comments on: St. Botolph's and a Tale of Two Bostons http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:45:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Cliff Truesdale http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-782435 Cliff Truesdale Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:39:59 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-782435 I have been in the process of researching my family tree so found all this very interesting. All my ancestors came from Co.Down Ireland and i now live in the U.K. i shall have to make a visit to St Botolphs. I have many relatives with the name John Truesdale so i may try taking the YDNA test. I have been in the process of researching my family tree so found all this very interesting. All my ancestors came from Co.Down Ireland and i now live in the U.K. i shall have to make a visit to St Botolphs. I have many relatives with the name John Truesdale so i may try taking the YDNA test.

]]> By: Surazeus Simon Seamount http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-778949 Surazeus Simon Seamount Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:47:19 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-778949 I am descended from Anne Bradstreet, daughter of Thomas Dudley, 13 generations. I inherited her poetic talent. I am descended from Anne Bradstreet, daughter of Thomas Dudley, 13 generations. I inherited her poetic talent.

]]> By: KEITH R. DAWSON http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-778535 KEITH R. DAWSON Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:23:00 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-778535 I have been investigating the Enderby's for twenty years and my record keeping in pre computer days can be said to lack something.From memory I think it came from the tables of whalers showing their catches and value and bonuses received from the British Government, the tables supplied by the Pennsylvania or Philadelphia Historical Society's who have the best whaling information of any organisation I have come across.Also they are very obliging. when about 4 years old during WWII My grandfather Henry Enderby of Boston Lincolnshire received a large parcel which when unwrapped revealed a glass case in which was a model of a sailing ship, the Samuel Enderby, the model was made by the ship builders son during construction, the ship was a commemoration to Samuel Enderby II &III, the Grandfather and Father of the initiators the sons Charles II George II and Henry. I number the Samuels because historians get them persistently wrong due not to numbering them. Samuel I was born1640, died 1723 then came Daniel II who married a Mary Cook, [from whence came the connection to James Cook?] Samuel II lived in Fish Street when he Married in 1752, half a block away Arthur Phillip the First Governor of Australia, lived in Bread Street the same street that Salters Hall was in that received money in Sam II's Will. There is a lot more but you will have to wait until I find a Publisher for my book The Founding of Sydney. Keith R. Dawson I have been investigating the Enderby's for twenty years and my record keeping in pre computer days can be said to lack something.From memory I think it came from the tables of whalers showing their catches and value and bonuses received from the British Government, the tables supplied by the Pennsylvania or Philadelphia Historical Society's who have the best whaling information of any organisation I have come across.Also they are very obliging. when about 4 years old during WWII My grandfather Henry Enderby of Boston Lincolnshire received a large parcel which when unwrapped revealed a glass case in which was a model of a sailing ship, the Samuel Enderby, the model was made by the ship builders son during construction, the ship was a commemoration to Samuel Enderby II &III, the Grandfather and Father of the initiators the sons Charles II George II and Henry. I number the Samuels because historians get them persistently wrong due not to numbering them. Samuel I was born1640, died 1723 then came Daniel II who married a Mary Cook, [from whence came the connection to James Cook?] Samuel II lived in Fish Street when he Married in 1752, half a block away Arthur Phillip the First Governor of Australia, lived in Bread Street the same street that Salters Hall was in that received money in Sam II's Will. There is a lot more but you will have to wait until I find a Publisher for my book The Founding of Sydney. Keith R. Dawson

]]> By: O. Meert http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-714874 O. Meert Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:40:59 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-714874 Is it the same Sir John who married before 1309 Margery TILNEY ???? Is it the same Sir John who married before 1309 Margery TILNEY ????

]]> By: A Doney http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-414209 A Doney Sun, 02 Jan 2011 05:19:27 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-414209 I am responding to the above post by Keith Roland Dawson. I am fascinated by the information you have put up regarding the Friendship and Captain Melvill. I am in fact descended from him. Could you please let me know your source for this snippet? I am struggling to find any other reference to this prize of 600 pounds and would love to find out more. Thanks and regards, A Doney. I am responding to the above post by Keith Roland Dawson. I am fascinated by the information you have put up regarding the Friendship and Captain Melvill. I am in fact descended from him. Could you please let me know your source for this snippet? I am struggling to find any other reference to this prize of 600 pounds and would love to find out more.

Thanks and regards, A Doney.

]]> By: Keith Roland Dawson http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-397106 Keith Roland Dawson Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:46:34 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-397106 The bells of the Stump are known for some reason the'' Brides of Enderby''. this may have something to do with the poetry of Jean Inglow the Lincolnshire Poetess. I maintain that the Tea Party was an organised event by the Protestant descendants on both sides of the Atlantic, of the originators of the Massachusetts Bay Company to make America a free state and to spread the protestant word around the world. And to get British and at the time this term included American, whalers into the Indian And Pacific Oceans. Oceans which were forbidden to any British ship that was not of the Royal Navy or the East India Company; The Elizabethan charter forming this company forbade any other British shipping from going East of Cape Of Good Hope which near enough is Cape Town. The whalers led by my ancestors Samuel Enderby II & III said that the charter did not say anything about going west of Cape Horn, which of course leads to the same places as going east of Cape Town. The Charter did not forbid going West of Cape Horn, this led the British Government to give three bonuses to the first to third ships that sailed into the pacific by going west of Cape Horn and returning to London with oil. the bonuses were 800,700,&600 pounds. the first was granted to Enderby ship Emelia which rounded the Horn in 1788, Australia's Founding year. Emelia returned to England too soon, to qualify she had to await down river untill qualifying time, a speed of ship remarked on at the time. the Captain and Harpoonist were American. The Enderby ship Freindship captained by Thomas Melvill was second collecting the 600 pounds; this Melvill was captain of Brittania the first ship known to catch the first whale in Australian Waters.. The bells of the Stump are known for some reason the" Brides of Enderby". this may have something to do with the poetry of Jean Inglow the Lincolnshire Poetess. I maintain that the Tea Party was an organised event by the Protestant descendants on both sides of the Atlantic, of the originators of the Massachusetts Bay Company to make America a free state and to spread the protestant word around the world. And to get British and at the time this term included American, whalers into the Indian And Pacific Oceans. Oceans which were forbidden to any British ship that was not of the Royal Navy or the East India Company; The Elizabethan charter forming this company forbade any other British shipping from going East of Cape Of Good Hope which near enough is Cape Town. The whalers led by my ancestors Samuel Enderby II & III said that the charter did not say anything about going west of Cape Horn, which of course leads to the same places as going east of Cape Town. The Charter did not forbid going West of Cape Horn, this led the British Government to give three bonuses to the first to third ships that sailed into the pacific by going west of Cape Horn and returning to London with oil. the bonuses were 800,700,&600 pounds. the first was granted to Enderby ship Emelia which rounded the Horn in 1788, Australia's Founding year. Emelia returned to England too soon, to qualify she had to await down river untill qualifying time, a speed of ship remarked on at the time. the Captain and Harpoonist were American. The Enderby ship Freindship captained by Thomas Melvill was second collecting the 600 pounds; this Melvill was captain of Brittania the first ship known to catch the first whale in Australian Waters..

]]> By: Dave Stewart http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-378074 Dave Stewart Sun, 28 Nov 2010 07:39:14 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-378074 HI Thomas: Have you heard of YDNA testing? Three Truesdale have posted their results on Ysearch. They results match closely. We are trying to determine if the various Truesdale lines in the US trace back to Sir John and so encourage any Truesdales (male line) interested in the geneology to participate by getting tested and posting on Ysearch. HI Thomas:

Have you heard of YDNA testing? Three Truesdale have posted their results on Ysearch. They results match closely. We are trying to determine if the various Truesdale lines in the US trace back to Sir John and so encourage any Truesdales (male line) interested in the
geneology to participate by getting tested and posting on Ysearch.

]]> By: val truesdell magnuson http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-343524 val truesdell magnuson Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:06:41 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-343524 Sir John of Boston is my ancestor too. I have been to Boston England and climbed the tower steps- I also signed Princess Diana's book of remembrance there. It was on my bucket list to go to Boston, England and so glad I did! Sir John of Boston is my ancestor too. I have been to Boston England and climbed the tower steps- I also signed Princess Diana's book of remembrance there. It was on my bucket list to go to Boston, England and so glad I did!

]]> By: Thomas James Truesdale http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-50052 Thomas James Truesdale Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:09:15 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-50052 I just started looking at our family history. From what I can find we link back to John Truesdale 1720-1791 County Down, Ireland. Is this the same John Truesdale branch of the family you come from? John had a son John 1745-1819. This second generation John moved to the US and died in Ohio. Thomas James Truesdale I just started looking at our family history. From what I can find we link back to John Truesdale 1720-1791 County Down, Ireland. Is this the same John Truesdale branch of the family you come from? John had a son John 1745-1819. This second generation John moved to the US and died in Ohio.

Thomas James Truesdale

]]> By: Toni Truesdale http://www.historynet.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-45926 Toni Truesdale Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:18:19 +0000 http://www.milhistory.com/st-botolphs-and-a-tale-of-two-bostons.htm#comment-45926 I'm researching for the John Truesdale branch of the family in the US. We're planning a family reunion this year. Love to learn more about the ancestry. I'm researching for the John Truesdale branch of the family in the US. We're planning a family reunion this year. Love to learn more about the ancestry.

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