http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rif-war From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:41:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-788725 toni Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:17:00 +0000 #comment-788725 The big battle out of Igueriben it is unmentioned by the bad propaganda, but there was some thousands (1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 counting the side of Igueriben) rif men attacking 800 spanish and moroccian that were defending in small hill were they had ended, and 1000 spanish arrived from Annual with machine guns, cavalry and infantry attacked suddenly from the side and rif men retreat generally and were caught in the route by artillery and the reavance of the 800 hundred initials. After, in this side assaulted Igueriben. A hole day battle, before Igueriben was sieged. The big battle out of Igueriben it is unmentioned by the bad propaganda, but there was some thousands (1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 counting the side of Igueriben) rif men attacking 800 spanish and moroccian that were defending in small hill were they had ended, and 1000 spanish arrived from Annual with machine guns, cavalry and infantry attacked suddenly from the side and rif men retreat generally and were caught in the route by artillery and the reavance of the 800 hundred initials. After, in this side assaulted Igueriben. A hole day battle, before Igueriben was sieged.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-788723 toni Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:50:36 +0000 #comment-788723 Of for example the big assault to Igueriben during the big battle in front of Igueriben, this post Igueriben shot 3000 artillery to support the battle and defend and 25000 bullet to defend. Apart the people in the battle out of Igueriben with almost 2000 soldiers employed and expected some hundred rif men dead minimum because it was a hole day battle for a wide extension of 7 kms in front and next to Igueriben. Of for example the big assault to Igueriben during the big battle in front of Igueriben, this post Igueriben shot 3000 artillery to support the battle and defend and 25000 bullet to defend.
Apart the people in the battle out of Igueriben with almost 2000 soldiers employed and expected some hundred rif men dead minimum because it was a hole day battle for a wide extension of 7 kms in front and next to Igueriben.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-788722 toni Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:36:53 +0000 #comment-788722 If you find sources saying that 10000 to 15000 spanish dead in the disaster, must know that the left political side of spanish (which link right spanish political side with the africanist militars), and the rif-moroccian propaganda as well are interested in that disaster propaganda. But if you read books from spanish authors, you will undersant that at most was 5000-6000 spanish troops in operation in Annual and distributed in intermediate zones, and the rest were moroccian itself. Rif tribes didnt summit under the moroccian sultan. For example, the 10 hours Igueriben first assault were employed 6000 spanish bullets shot, and 125 canoon shot. So its about 6 clashes with 4 of them offenssive plus the countersiege fight. You can expect about 2000-4000 easily. And the retreat of Annual where the east route was battled during 3 or 4 hours by releving retreating waves of fire parallel to the road, to allow reach Driouch, and to reach Monte Arruit the fight also with the cavalry, that did various charges, there were like 600 horsemen, supported by some guerrilla groups shooting. So even more than 4000-5000 dont rule out. It was a pity to surrender in MOnte Arruit because they had some water in ice from the planes and if not surrendered not dead. But you can see that spanish didnt put to fire towns of tribes, like rif did, nor attack civilian of towns. But Spanish fought well in the 6 main clashes before annual retreat and during the retreat and this caused a great hate in rif men. If you find sources saying that 10000 to 15000 spanish dead in the disaster, must know that the left political side of spanish (which link right spanish political side with the africanist militars), and the rif-moroccian propaganda as well are interested in that disaster propaganda.
But if you read books from spanish authors, you will undersant that at most was 5000-6000 spanish troops in operation in Annual and distributed in intermediate zones, and the rest were moroccian itself. Rif tribes didnt summit under the moroccian sultan.
For example, the 10 hours Igueriben first assault were employed 6000 spanish bullets shot, and 125 canoon shot.
So its about 6 clashes with 4 of them offenssive plus the countersiege fight. You can expect about 2000-4000 easily. And the retreat of Annual where the east route was battled during 3 or 4 hours by releving retreating waves of fire parallel to the road, to allow reach Driouch, and to reach Monte Arruit the fight also with the cavalry, that did various charges, there were like 600 horsemen, supported by some guerrilla groups shooting. So even more than 4000-5000 dont rule out.
It was a pity to surrender in MOnte Arruit because they had some water in ice from the planes and if not surrendered not dead.
But you can see that spanish didnt put to fire towns of tribes, like rif did, nor attack civilian of towns. But Spanish fought well in the 6 main clashes before annual retreat and during the retreat and this caused a great hate in rif men.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-788719 toni Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:45:05 +0000 #comment-788719 And when i say about 7000 thousand dead "spanish" in there are about 1000-2000 moroccian troops fighting in the spanish side. And when i say about 7000 thousand dead "spanish" in there are about 1000-2000 moroccian troops fighting in the spanish side.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-788716 toni Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:29:19 +0000 #comment-788716 For the summary, spanish dead by betrayal after agree surrender about 4500, by Monte Arruit and Kebdani, and +1000 in dozens of small intermidiate positions. Spanish dead in combat operations, 1500, and these are the Abarran´s, Igueriben´s, regulares during retreat and alcantara cavalry. You should expect rif men dead +4000. For example the positions of Abarran was shouting more than 3 hours of continuous fire before the end. It is misinterpret to say 50 spanish dead in Abarran and think they did not shot to the enemy? The disaster was a lack of attention to the amount of enemy forces, they soon knew they were more rif men than spanish but still waited many days to retreat. For the summary, spanish dead by betrayal after agree surrender about 4500, by Monte Arruit and Kebdani, and +1000 in dozens of small intermidiate positions.
Spanish dead in combat operations, 1500, and these are the Abarran´s, Igueriben´s, regulares during retreat and alcantara cavalry.
You should expect rif men dead +4000.
For example the positions of Abarran was shouting more than 3 hours of continuous fire before the end. It is misinterpret to say 50 spanish dead in Abarran and think they did not shot to the enemy?
The disaster was a lack of attention to the amount of enemy forces, they soon knew they were more rif men than spanish but still waited many days to retreat.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-788715 toni Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:11:18 +0000 #comment-788715 All that of Rif War is wrong, know anglosaxon historicians are always against Spain, from the historic wars between them. Spanish dead in Annual is about 7000 thousand, but moroccian had many as well. The battle of Abarran was more than 3 hours, with 50 spanish in them no 179. The next battle of Sidi Dris was with many attacks, with 24 hours of fighting. After that various continuous attacks on Igueriben for 10 hours, and after another big battle won by spanish (involving almost 2000 spanish) out of it before the siege. Once the siege of Igueriben, 2 more battles for the height round Igueriben with counterattacks. More serious temptatives against Igueriben. Igueriben was surrounded by rif men corpses. And during the final retire, the regulares and and cabalry alcantara made the support necessary for the gross of 3000 arrive to Monte Arruit. Rif men had some thousand deads as well (+4000), as they attacked many times. That is because they were so hate for the spanish and agredd a surrender and the broke the agreement and kill them instead leaving go as they agreed. That was very dirt and spanish could have done the same butchery, but even bigger, after Alhucemas disembark, and they didnt and accomplis the agreement of surrender for many thousands rif men. All that of Rif War is wrong, know anglosaxon historicians are always against Spain, from the historic wars between them. Spanish dead in Annual is about 7000 thousand, but moroccian had many as well. The battle of Abarran was more than 3 hours, with 50 spanish in them no 179. The next battle of Sidi Dris was with many attacks, with 24 hours of fighting. After that various continuous attacks on Igueriben for 10 hours, and after another big battle won by spanish (involving almost 2000 spanish) out of it before the siege. Once the siege of Igueriben, 2 more battles for the height round Igueriben with counterattacks. More serious temptatives against Igueriben. Igueriben was surrounded by rif men corpses.
And during the final retire, the regulares and and cabalry alcantara made the support necessary for the gross of 3000 arrive to Monte Arruit.
Rif men had some thousand deads as well (+4000), as they attacked many times. That is because they were so hate for the spanish and agredd a surrender and the broke the agreement and kill them instead leaving go as they agreed. That was very dirt and spanish could have done the same butchery, but even bigger, after Alhucemas disembark, and they didnt and accomplis the agreement of surrender for many thousands rif men.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-778736 sousou Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:00:24 +0000 #comment-778736 hay ! hay !

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-526326 Rifiyah Sun, 17 Apr 2011 09:38:59 +0000 #comment-526326 Totaly agree. A Load of tosh Porch. Totaly agree. A Load of tosh Porch.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/rif-war.htm#comment-472362 stephen Ryan Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:12:03 +0000 #comment-472362 This is garbage written by an idiot. This is garbage written by an idiot.

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