http://www.historynet.com/red-army-assault-at-seelow-heights-sidebar-may-99-world-war-ii-feature.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:48:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://www.historynet.com/red-army-assault-at-seelow-heights-sidebar-may-99-world-war-ii-feature.htm#comment-816745 Larry C Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:43:37 +0000 #comment-816745 Had Roosevelt and Churchill not "given" all of Eastern Europe and half of Germany to Stalin, it is highly probable that the Western allies and general Patton would have arrived at Berlin or even Warsaw before the Soviets. I had talked with many German officers (when they were still alive) who said they would have readily surrendered to the Westerners but not the Soviets. European history and the Iron curtain story would certainly have been different if Roosevelt and Churchill not given away that which was not theirs to give. Had Roosevelt and Churchill not "given" all of Eastern Europe and half of Germany to Stalin, it is highly probable that the Western allies and general Patton would have arrived at Berlin or even Warsaw before the Soviets.
I had talked with many German officers (when they were still alive) who said they would have readily surrendered to the Westerners but not the Soviets.
European history and the Iron curtain story would certainly have been different if Roosevelt and Churchill not given away that which was not theirs to give.

]]> http://www.historynet.com/red-army-assault-at-seelow-heights-sidebar-may-99-world-war-ii-feature.htm#comment-313220 Victor Prutyanov Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:08:17 +0000 #comment-313220 I can recommend the article in Wikipedia "Battle of the Seelow Heights" for further reading to get better understanding of what was really happening I can recommend the article in Wikipedia "Battle of the Seelow Heights"
for further reading to get better understanding of what was really happening

]]> http://www.historynet.com/red-army-assault-at-seelow-heights-sidebar-may-99-world-war-ii-feature.htm#comment-312557 Victor Prutyanov Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:40:23 +0000 #comment-312557 very biased article, based on German view of the war. Soviet atrocities in fact were much lesser threat to civilians than it is presented by Germans. In fact Soviet leadership strictly forbade that in number of orders to troops in total contrast to Hitler who actually called for extermination of slaves. Gen. Konev never went to obscurity, rising in ranks in Soviet military and eventually became the Supreme Commander of Warsaw Pact armies. In fact, the capture of Berlin was a stunning success even though the initial fighting at Oder river was extremely difficult and Seelow hights actually remained in Nazi hands. However, after penetrating German defense line the soviets managed to kill and capture the bulk of enemy forces, preventing their retreat to Berlin. As a result city was defended by beaten remnants of 9th army, police and Folksturm. This could not resist regular Soviet Army and city fell in just 10 days. very biased article, based on German view of the war. Soviet atrocities in fact were much lesser threat to civilians than it is presented by Germans. In fact Soviet leadership strictly forbade that in number of orders to troops in total contrast to Hitler who actually called for extermination of slaves.
Gen. Konev never went to obscurity, rising in ranks in Soviet military and eventually became the Supreme Commander of Warsaw Pact armies. In fact, the capture of Berlin was a stunning success even though the initial fighting at Oder river was extremely difficult and Seelow hights actually remained in Nazi hands. However, after penetrating German defense line the soviets managed to kill and capture the bulk of enemy forces, preventing their retreat to Berlin. As a result city was defended by beaten remnants of 9th army, police and Folksturm. This could not resist regular Soviet Army and city fell in just 10 days.

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