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	<title>Comments on: &quot;Pinochle is a Rough Game&quot;: My Love for Stalag 17</title>
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		<title>By: Jean Deaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Deaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 01:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Holden deserved an award.  

&quot;We were playing Pinochle, it&#039;s a rough game&quot;   - awesome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Holden deserved an award.  </p>
<p>&#034;We were playing Pinochle, it&#039;s a rough game&#034;   &#8211; awesome</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saving Private Ryan certainly had intense combat scenes, but overall, it really wasn&#039;t all that good.  It seemed Spielberg just wanted to include every possible situation in a movie. At times it was quite far-fetched, really. I&#039;m not referring to the opening 20 minutes though.

And it&#039;s doubtful they would have sent soldiers form Omaha beach to search for a 101st trooper, who would&#039;ve been dropped behind Utah beach some 20 miles away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saving Private Ryan certainly had intense combat scenes, but overall, it really wasn&#039;t all that good.  It seemed Spielberg just wanted to include every possible situation in a movie. At times it was quite far-fetched, really. I&#039;m not referring to the opening 20 minutes though.</p>
<p>And it&#039;s doubtful they would have sent soldiers form Omaha beach to search for a 101st trooper, who would&#039;ve been dropped behind Utah beach some 20 miles away.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>King Rat was a good movie, the book was even better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>King Rat was a good movie, the book was even better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob DeWitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I ever run into any of you bums on a street corner, just let&#039;s pretend we&#039;ve never met before.&quot;

My favorite line in that movie. 

As far as good cinema goes, I think making a war movie presents more challenges than other genres. 

In any case, I find the ones my Dad and I watched when I was a kid, like Full Metal Jacket, Cross of Iron, or The Young Lions, are still my favorite. 
    These movies aren&#039;t history lessons, the directors are using a setting to develop a theme. Most war movies fail because the only theme they are pushing is that war is terrible, which is something we all should know. At any rate, All quite on the Western Front pushed that theme better than any movie since, and it came out in 1932. 

Maybe War Movies are like Westerns. It&#039;s a genre you can only do so much with before you have to get weird to get a good story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;If I ever run into any of you bums on a street corner, just let&#039;s pretend we&#039;ve never met before.&#034;</p>
<p>My favorite line in that movie. </p>
<p>As far as good cinema goes, I think making a war movie presents more challenges than other genres. </p>
<p>In any case, I find the ones my Dad and I watched when I was a kid, like Full Metal Jacket, Cross of Iron, or The Young Lions, are still my favorite.<br />
    These movies aren&#039;t history lessons, the directors are using a setting to develop a theme. Most war movies fail because the only theme they are pushing is that war is terrible, which is something we all should know. At any rate, All quite on the Western Front pushed that theme better than any movie since, and it came out in 1932. </p>
<p>Maybe War Movies are like Westerns. It&#039;s a genre you can only do so much with before you have to get weird to get a good story.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Favorite line:  When the guy reading the letter from home learns that a baby has been dropped off on his wife&#039;s doorstep and low and behold it has her eyes.  &quot;It could happen&quot;  I also like King Rat for POW movies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favorite line:  When the guy reading the letter from home learns that a baby has been dropped off on his wife&#039;s doorstep and low and behold it has her eyes.  &#034;It could happen&#034;  I also like King Rat for POW movies</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Nasuti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Nasuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting the review from Variety.  I had not read it before and apologize if I seemed too harsh in my earlier post.  You were very fair to the film, and I do hope you are able to get around to seeing some good war films. There are actually a few out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting the review from Variety.  I had not read it before and apologize if I seemed too harsh in my earlier post.  You were very fair to the film, and I do hope you are able to get around to seeing some good war films. There are actually a few out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hays</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 02:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One needs to be carefull with movies since real facts do not actually make for a entertaining movie.  Stalag 17 is a great movie and I think it shows how POW&#039;s acted in their day to day exsitence.  Wilder made the movie as egdie as the 1950&#039;s culture allowed.  I think that the character Joey, the emotional damaged POW was as far as the Hayes&#039; commission would let him go. There is nothing worse than a director rearranging facts to suit ther artistic vision.  
Dr Citino you should see Saving Private Ryan.  It is the one movie that I know of that came with a warning about the combat scenes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One needs to be carefull with movies since real facts do not actually make for a entertaining movie.  Stalag 17 is a great movie and I think it shows how POW&#039;s acted in their day to day exsitence.  Wilder made the movie as egdie as the 1950&#039;s culture allowed.  I think that the character Joey, the emotional damaged POW was as far as the Hayes&#039; commission would let him go. There is nothing worse than a director rearranging facts to suit ther artistic vision.<br />
Dr Citino you should see Saving Private Ryan.  It is the one movie that I know of that came with a warning about the combat scenes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Citino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Citino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 21:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy--

As I wrote, I know that not liking war movies is unusual in a historian.  It&#039;s just the way it is--one of my many character flaws :)

Your second point is well taken:  there are a LOT of sad photos taken during wartime.  Tough to judge.  

FInally, on Inglourious Basterds, here&#039;s the review I did in Variety.  It was a phone interview that the editors formatted like a review.  I think I was fair to the film.  

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=awardcentral&amp;jump=news&amp;articleid=VR1118013551&amp;cs=1 
  
Thanks for the note!

--RC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy&#8211;</p>
<p>As I wrote, I know that not liking war movies is unusual in a historian.  It&#039;s just the way it is&#8211;one of my many character flaws :)</p>
<p>Your second point is well taken:  there are a LOT of sad photos taken during wartime.  Tough to judge.  </p>
<p>FInally, on Inglourious Basterds, here&#039;s the review I did in Variety.  It was a phone interview that the editors formatted like a review.  I think I was fair to the film.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=awardcentral&#038;jump=news&#038;articleid=VR1118013551&#038;cs=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=awardcentral&#038;jump=news&#038;articleid=VR1118013551&#038;cs=1</a> </p>
<p>Thanks for the note!</p>
<p>&#8211;RC</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Nasuti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Nasuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that a historian of your calibre does not seem to enjoy movies much at all, especially war flicks!  I wonder if there are other scholars out there that feel as you do.  I don&#039;t consider myself a scholar, but I am a movie buff, and I am probably one of the few people that regularly studies WWII history and actually enjoyed &#039;Inglorious Basterds.&#039;

&#039;Basterds&#039; had its faults, but I found it to be entertaining.  It was strictly a revenge movie from beginning to end. It&#039;s humor was often perverse, as war always is, but I enjoy the acting and dialogue of most of his movies.  I think many historians sort of got their panties in a bunch because he took many absurd liberties with history, but I would argue he was the artist and that was his call. Did his movie have an overall message?  I would argue that it did not, but I was engaged in the story and found myself laughing at things that usually I would not find that funny.  I admit, I was entertained, and sometimes that is all a movie has to do. I did not go in expecting to see &#039;Schindler&#039;s List&#039; or &#039;Come and See&#039; or a &quot;big message&quot; movie.

On a bit of a heavier note, I have to take issue with a couple of comments in your article, especially the &quot;there is nothing in the world sadder than photographs of POWs just after they&#039;ve surrendered.&quot;  Sad yes, but I would argue that photographs of dead people, whether soldiers or civilians, from any nation, are much sadder.  I would even argue that photographs of children during wartime often present some of the most sad and depressing images ever.  I am a former navy photographer and photo editor of history magazines and have seen my share of war footage and photos and there is nothing, in my opinion, as sad as seeing what war does to innocent children whom find themselves in situations where they have to witness the depravities of war.

Sorry to get a bit heavy there, but I just wanted to comment. Thanks for the great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m surprised that a historian of your calibre does not seem to enjoy movies much at all, especially war flicks!  I wonder if there are other scholars out there that feel as you do.  I don&#039;t consider myself a scholar, but I am a movie buff, and I am probably one of the few people that regularly studies WWII history and actually enjoyed &#039;Inglorious Basterds.&#039;</p>
<p>&#039;Basterds&#039; had its faults, but I found it to be entertaining.  It was strictly a revenge movie from beginning to end. It&#039;s humor was often perverse, as war always is, but I enjoy the acting and dialogue of most of his movies.  I think many historians sort of got their panties in a bunch because he took many absurd liberties with history, but I would argue he was the artist and that was his call. Did his movie have an overall message?  I would argue that it did not, but I was engaged in the story and found myself laughing at things that usually I would not find that funny.  I admit, I was entertained, and sometimes that is all a movie has to do. I did not go in expecting to see &#039;Schindler&#039;s List&#039; or &#039;Come and See&#039; or a &#034;big message&#034; movie.</p>
<p>On a bit of a heavier note, I have to take issue with a couple of comments in your article, especially the &#034;there is nothing in the world sadder than photographs of POWs just after they&#039;ve surrendered.&#034;  Sad yes, but I would argue that photographs of dead people, whether soldiers or civilians, from any nation, are much sadder.  I would even argue that photographs of children during wartime often present some of the most sad and depressing images ever.  I am a former navy photographer and photo editor of history magazines and have seen my share of war footage and photos and there is nothing, in my opinion, as sad as seeing what war does to innocent children whom find themselves in situations where they have to witness the depravities of war.</p>
<p>Sorry to get a bit heavy there, but I just wanted to comment. Thanks for the great article.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy Wilder was one of the greatest Hollywood directors and &quot;Some Like it Hot&quot; may have been the funniest movie ever made.</description>
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