Comments on: Offerings Left at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Fri, 24 May 2013 06:44:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Offerings at Vietnam Veterans Memorial « American History http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-789424 Offerings at Vietnam Veterans Memorial « American History Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:26:42 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-789424 [...] http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm?pid=139 Share this:TwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. [...] [...] http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm?pid=139 Share this:TwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. [...]

]]> By: the gioi thoi trang http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-782393 the gioi thoi trang Sun, 27 Nov 2011 03:00:07 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-782393 You understand what we suffered, fought for and how important it is to have so many odd items left there that have helped a Veteran or family some closure. You understand what we suffered, fought for and how important it is to have so many odd items left there that have helped a Veteran or family some closure.

]]> By: Joe Abodeely http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-781948 Joe Abodeely Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:18:37 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-781948 The Marines were under siege until the 1st Air Calvary Division’s Operation Pegasus relieved them on April 8, 1968. They did not fight their way out of the siege or break out (as some Marines claim) as they could not go up and down highway 9 until the airmobile infantry (augmented with some Marines and ARVNs) cleared the road to the Khe Sanh Fire Base. They had to be resupplied by the Air Force with LAPE methods. The Marines were unable to send two companies (per the contingency plan) to aid Lang Vei Special Forces camp when it was attacked by NVA tanks. And the Marines lost almost entire patrols whenever they left the perimeter before the relief of the siege. The Air Force had bombed the AO around KSFB with fantastic bomb tonnage, but the entrenched NVA still kept the Marines contained. Air Force bombing did not drive the NVA away as some USAF proponents claim. Even the famous History Channel in its recent Vietnam series commented that the air force drove the NVA away so the 1st Cavalry Division could relieve KSFB. But the NVA could retreat to nearby Laos or North Vietnam at will. When did the Air Force drive the NVA away because 1st Cavalry troopers were still fighting them during Operation Pegasus? USAF bombing was important, but not decisive. If the NVA left before the 1st Air Cavalry conducted Operation Pegasus (because they “heard about it”)–when was that? If the mere threat of the 1st Air Cav coming is what drove the NVA away—that is all the better. The art of war is not defeating one’s enemy in a hundred battles–it is putting him in a position whereby he must capitulate. (Sun Tzu). The 1st Air Cavalry "boots on the ground" are what drove the NVA away, cleared Route 9, and relieved the Marines from the siege at Khe Sanh Fire Base. D company, 2/7 Cavalry lead the drive. Those who opine to the contrary are incorrect. Give the 1st Air Cav the credit it deserves for breaking the siege of Khe Sanh and clearing Route 9. The 1st Cavalry earned much deserved glory for its actions in the Ia Drang campaign, but the 1st Cav’s greatest accomplishment was its relief of the Marine Khe Sanh Fire Base. The Marines were under siege until the 1st Air Calvary Division’s Operation Pegasus relieved them on April 8, 1968. They did not fight their way out of the siege or break out (as some Marines claim) as they could not go up and down highway 9 until the airmobile infantry (augmented with some Marines and ARVNs) cleared the road to the Khe Sanh Fire Base. They had to be resupplied by the Air Force with LAPE methods. The Marines were unable to send two companies (per the contingency plan) to aid Lang Vei Special Forces camp when it was attacked by NVA tanks. And the Marines lost almost entire patrols whenever they left the perimeter before the relief of the siege.
The Air Force had bombed the AO around KSFB with fantastic bomb tonnage, but the entrenched NVA still kept the Marines contained. Air Force bombing did not drive the NVA away as some USAF proponents claim. Even the famous History Channel in its recent Vietnam series commented that the air force drove the NVA away so the 1st Cavalry Division could relieve KSFB. But the NVA could retreat to nearby Laos or North Vietnam at will. When did the Air Force drive the NVA away because 1st Cavalry troopers were still fighting them during Operation Pegasus? USAF bombing was important, but not decisive.
If the NVA left before the 1st Air Cavalry conducted Operation Pegasus (because they “heard about it”)–when was that? If the mere threat of the 1st Air Cav coming is what drove the NVA away—that is all the better. The art of war is not defeating one’s enemy in a hundred battles–it is putting him in a position whereby he must capitulate. (Sun Tzu). The 1st Air Cavalry "boots on the ground" are what drove the NVA away, cleared Route 9, and relieved the Marines from the siege at Khe Sanh Fire Base. D company, 2/7 Cavalry lead the drive. Those who opine to the contrary are incorrect. Give the 1st Air Cav the credit it deserves for breaking the siege of Khe Sanh and clearing Route 9. The 1st Cavalry earned much deserved glory for its actions in the Ia Drang campaign, but the 1st Cav’s greatest accomplishment was its relief of the Marine Khe Sanh Fire Base.

]]> By: Sam Tillett http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-634245 Sam Tillett Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:10:23 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-634245 Dear Jill and all of the other wonderful people on this site, Immediately after reading about your heroic fathers, I fervantly prayed that you are granted peace today and every day hereafter. It is my opinion that this is what your dads would want as their top priority. I have been uneasy and triggered into nagging depression by the death in Viet Nam of friends and those that served with me every year since I returned from my positions as a Marine rifle platoon and company commander. I can not imagine the emotional turmoil brought about by really not knowing the verifiable truth about one's father. I am sorry. I just wanted you to know you are in my prayers today, tomorrow, and as long as I can conscietiously pray. Highest respects, Sam Tillett Dear Jill and all of the other wonderful people on this site, Immediately after reading about your heroic fathers, I fervantly prayed that you are granted peace today and every day hereafter. It is my opinion that this is what your dads would want as their top priority. I have been uneasy and triggered into nagging depression by the death in Viet Nam of friends and those that served with me every year since I returned from my positions as a Marine rifle platoon and company commander. I can not imagine the emotional turmoil brought about by really not knowing the verifiable truth about one's father. I am sorry. I just wanted you to know you are in my prayers today, tomorrow, and as long as I can conscietiously pray. Highest respects, Sam Tillett

]]> By: Susan Shaw http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-621310 Susan Shaw Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:17:50 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-621310 Two of the most beautiful stories I have ever read. Thank you for sharing. Two of the most beautiful stories I have ever read. Thank you for sharing.

]]> By: thomas shontz AX-3 http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-364258 thomas shontz AX-3 Sun, 14 Nov 2010 02:44:16 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-364258 Jill Hubs, I was on the Yorktown that 1968 cruise. I was in the sister squadron VS-25. We were all saddened at the loss of Cmdr. Hubbs and the three crew members of that S-2. God bless you for your diligence to find your father. When I visit the Yorktown, I shed a tear when I see the memorial there. May you find peace In knowing that, like all of us, we were willing to give our lives for our country. Jill Hubs,
I was on the Yorktown that 1968 cruise. I was in the sister squadron VS-25. We were all saddened at the loss of Cmdr. Hubbs and the three crew members of that S-2. God bless you for your diligence to find your father. When I visit the Yorktown, I shed a tear when I see the memorial there. May you find peace In knowing that, like all of us, we were willing to give our lives for our country.

]]> By: thomas shontz http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-364255 thomas shontz Sun, 14 Nov 2010 02:37:00 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-364255 Jill Hubs, I was on the Yorktown that 1968 cruise. I was in the sister squadron VS-25. We were all saddened at the loss of Cmdr. Hubbs and the three crew members of that S-2. God bless you for your diligence to find your father. Jill Hubs,
I was on the Yorktown that 1968 cruise. I was in the sister squadron VS-25. We were all saddened at the loss of Cmdr. Hubbs and the three crew members of that S-2. God bless you for your diligence to find your father.

]]> By: Robert Wirt http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-362584 Robert Wirt Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:08:41 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-362584 Dear Jill: You don't know me and we have never met but I know the story of your late dad and I was deeply touched by your entry. My name is Robert Wirt and I am the youngest of three children of the late CAPT William "Bill" & Marie Wirt, USN (Ret). My dad was CAG of the Air Wing on the USS Yorktown when your dad was CO of VS-23. Our families were actually neighbors in Chula (or Bonita) Vista during this time although I barely remember as I was only 6 when we moved in the late Summer of 1968 when my dad got orders to attend US Naval War College in Newport, RI. If I'm not mistaken, I believe my late mom said your mom's name was Julie? Our family-- like so many other Navy/military families-- all wore the POW/MIA braclets for several years. I can remember my mom wore that of a family friend and naval aviator, Jerimiah Denton. I wore one for another naval aviator, Rodney Knutson. However, I believe my brother Jim or sister Dyan may have worn your dad's braclet. Thankfully, both Jerimiah & Rodney survived the war as POWs and were repatriated. Unfortunately, your father didn't get to share the same fortune but I hope you can take some measure of solice in knowing that our family shared in the silent grief in the loss of your dad with you and your family. Fast forward 40 years! I currently live in the DC area and earlier this year, I had some out-of-town friends visit and they wanted to sight-see in the nation's capitol. The Washington Monument, the Captiol, the Lincoln Memorial, etc. They also wanted to visit the Vietnam War Memorial. When we stopped there, I made a point to look-up your dad's name and visit his inscription on the wall. I couldn't help but have memories of that time of my life wash over me, remembering how it felt to have our dad away on cruise & at war, not knowing if he too was ever coming home to my mom and me and my brother and sister. Fortunately, I had the opportunity to spend many years with my dad as he lived to retire from the Navy after 34 years of service in 1979; he died in 1995. Sadly, my mom passed away only 4 years later in 1999. While it is likely of little condolence, please know that your dad was never forgotten by those who knew and served with him, and that you and rest of your family were never far from our-- and many other Navy family's-- thoughts & prayers. God Bless! Dear Jill: You don't know me and we have never met but I know the story of your late dad and I was deeply touched by your entry. My name is Robert Wirt and I am the youngest of three children of the late CAPT William "Bill" & Marie Wirt, USN (Ret). My dad was CAG of the Air Wing on the USS Yorktown when your dad was CO of VS-23. Our families were actually neighbors in Chula (or Bonita) Vista during this time although I barely remember as I was only 6 when we moved in the late Summer of 1968 when my dad got orders to attend US Naval War College in Newport, RI. If I'm not mistaken, I believe my late mom said your mom's name was Julie? Our family– like so many other Navy/military families– all wore the POW/MIA braclets for several years. I can remember my mom wore that of a family friend and naval aviator, Jerimiah Denton. I wore one for another naval aviator, Rodney Knutson. However, I believe my brother Jim or sister Dyan may have worn your dad's braclet. Thankfully, both Jerimiah & Rodney survived the war as POWs and were repatriated. Unfortunately, your father didn't get to share the same fortune but I hope you can take some measure of solice in knowing that our family shared in the silent grief in the loss of your dad with you and your family. Fast forward 40 years! I currently live in the DC area and earlier this year, I had some out-of-town friends visit and they wanted to sight-see in the nation's capitol. The Washington Monument, the Captiol, the Lincoln Memorial, etc. They also wanted to visit the Vietnam War Memorial. When we stopped there, I made a point to look-up your dad's name and visit his inscription on the wall. I couldn't help but have memories of that time of my life wash over me, remembering how it felt to have our dad away on cruise & at war, not knowing if he too was ever coming home to my mom and me and my brother and sister. Fortunately, I had the opportunity to spend many years with my dad as he lived to retire from the Navy after 34 years of service in 1979; he died in 1995. Sadly, my mom passed away only 4 years later in 1999. While it is likely of little condolence, please know that your dad was never forgotten by those who knew and served with him, and that you and rest of your family were never far from our– and many other Navy family's– thoughts & prayers. God Bless!

]]> By: Stephanie John http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-355578 Stephanie John Wed, 27 Oct 2010 02:35:28 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-355578 Oh, Jill. And Jayne. I looked up your Dad because I remembered the PAAS school service for the end of the Vietnam War, and my mom had mailed me a newspaper clipping in 1993 when you were in Viet Nam. My dad died 2 years ago in his 70's and I miss him every day. I cannot imagine the pain of losing a parent when at 10 or 11. I still have the 2 POW/MIA bracelets I bought from you for a donation to the POW/MIA cause. Thomas James Sterling made it home and was alive and well in 1998. Cmdr. David Scott Greiling's status was changed in 1973 to "Died while captured". Oh, Jill. And Jayne. I looked up your Dad because I remembered the PAAS school service for the end of the Vietnam War, and my mom had mailed me a newspaper clipping in 1993 when you were in Viet Nam.

My dad died 2 years ago in his 70's and I miss him every day. I cannot imagine the pain of losing a parent when at 10 or 11.

I still have the 2 POW/MIA bracelets I bought from you for a donation to the POW/MIA cause. Thomas James Sterling made it home and was alive and well in 1998. Cmdr. David Scott Greiling's status was changed in 1973 to "Died while captured".

]]> By: Dean "TEACHER" Halstead http://www.historynet.com/offerings-left-at-the-vietnam-veterans-memorial.htm#comment-338039 Dean "TEACHER" Halstead Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:31:31 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681181#comment-338039 What an amazing "Happy Father's Day" story, concerning the loss of Cdr Hubbs! Why would anyone question the reasoning or motives of those who want to hold our government accountable for the return of our nation's warriors who have yet to return from the wars they fought. I salute you Jill Hubbs and am so sorry for all the pain you and your family have experienced over these last four decades. God Bless you. What an amazing "Happy Father's Day" story, concerning the loss of Cdr Hubbs! Why would anyone question the reasoning or motives of those who want to hold our government accountable for the return of our nation's warriors who have yet to return from the wars they fought. I salute you Jill Hubbs and am so sorry for all the pain you and your family have experienced over these last four decades. God Bless you.

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