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Men Against Fire: How Many Soldiers Actually Fired Their Weapons at the Enemy During the Vietnam WarVietnam | 6 comments | Print This Post | Email This Post
The assigned mission at times meant that actions other than killing the enemy had a higher priority. Units on intelligence collection operations frequently let a threat pass by unmolested. The members of these patrols sometimes called for artillery to engage the targets after they passed; in other instances, the Americans simply reported what they had seen. Firing their weapons risked compromising a patrol’s position, whereas resisting the temptation could provide the information-collectors with several more days of unmolested activity. Given the difficulty of inserting a patrol in many instances, preserving secrecy could easily outweigh the immediate benefit of a few enemy taken under fire. Subscribe Today
Similarly, good tactics at times meant that a soldier did not use his primary weapon, if he engaged at all. Experienced units often shifted some if not all of their men just before or after darkness fell so that the NVA or VC could not mark American locations for attack later that night. Enemy sappers routinely made post-sunset attempts to determine the location of U.S. perimeter defensive positions. They sought to cause the Americans to fire so that muzzle flashes would give the defenders’ positions away. Determining the location of heavy weapons such as machine guns was especially desirable; those were primary targets during any attack because of their greater killing potential. Men in well-trained units knew when to detonate a Claymore mine, call for mortar or artillery support, or throw a grenade instead of using a rifle, pistol, machine gun or grenade launcher. These alternatives were means of dealing with a threat without compromising firing positions.
Personal beliefs did play a role, though a far less pervasive one than Marshall claimed was the case during World War II. Conscientious objectors accompanied infantry units into combat as medics, ammunition bearers for machine guns, or in other noncombatant roles. They often put themselves at greater risk by not carrying weapons. If the 1st Cavalry Division respondents reflect the majority veteran view, such men generally performed their duties well and were often respected for their convictions. A veteran respondent remembered that he ‘had a medic who was a conscientious objector in the platoon. He chose not to carry a weapon during his tour. When asked if he would fire a weapon if our platoon was being overrun and some of his buddies might die if he did not, his answer was that he `would not fire a weapon.’ He was still respected for his deep conviction against weapons.’
A unit could be in a no-fire zone, an area in which using weapons was prohibited. Poor training that improperly prepared soldiers for combat underlay other cases of failing to engage. In at least one instance a man turned to point out an enemy soldier rather than firing as he should have. Finally, one veteran recalled his simply being outgunned as he stood ‘naked on top of a shower stall put-ting water in. I threw the water can at the enemy, but the round fell way short.’
The list is not exhaustive, but it helps to explain why a unit might have several men not engaging despite being under fire. Often every man fired during a contact; at other times, only a few had the opportunity. And there were occasions when fear, cowardice, poor judgment or confusion kept men from employing weapons against their foes when they should have. However, such occasions were the exception in Vietnam.
It is evident that the vast majority of those whose duties put them in harm’s way fired when the situation dictated they should do so. But what factors influenced how many times a man had the opportunity to engage the enemy during his time in Southeast Asia? Were there factors that made it more likely for some men to fire than others? We already know that duty position had such an effect, but the likelihood that someone engaged varied even among those whose primary job was to shoot to kill. More than a third of the 1st Cavalry Division veterans fired on the NVA or VC less than 15 times while in-country. Nearly 80 percent engaged 50 or fewer times. Members of one group in particular, however, consistently saw much more action: aviators and their door gunners. Enlisted men, warrant officers and commissioned officers who flew or crewed aircraft tended to have considerably more engagements on average. A third of this group engaged the enemy more than 100 times; fewer than half fired on the enemy less than 50 times. Pages: 1 2 3 4 5Tags: 20th - 21st Century, Historical Conflicts, Historical Figures, Vietnam War
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6 Comments to “Men Against Fire: How Many Soldiers Actually Fired Their Weapons at the Enemy During the Vietnam War”
Interesting . I need to find that book .
By Bill Schroeder on Jun 15, 2008 at 1:08 pm
This is utter twaddle. Every single one of my men in the 3/B/2/503 fired his weapon at the enemy in every single one of my firefights. SLA Marshall may be correct about WWII but he is full of crap about RVN.
By R. Bloomfield on Jul 31, 2008 at 4:23 pm
some of us gi’s where in an area where we only saw our wepons on sunday to clean them.I still have guity to this day.I was single and feel I should have died instead of a man with a family.
By jimh on Sep 5, 2008 at 12:15 am
The understandig of this problem is still crucial – men (or women) should not face combat alone. The fire team will ensure peer pressure to participate, give wider observation arc and first aid in case of casualties.
The absence of artillery in Vietnam allowed closer formations and thereby increased the inclination to fire as the others do. The sound of fire is a moral boost and much louder than the opposit ;-).
By Peter Kamp on Jul 29, 2009 at 3:55 am
During my 9 months in country with the “C” 1/8th Cav, 1st Air Cav Div, being shot in the chest Nov 21,68 shortened my tour, I never once saw or heard of someone NOT firing his weapon.
Everyone in the company, except the C.O., his RTO and the medics always fired their weapon.
Talking to other guys from 1/8th Cav, it was the same way. Everyone fired their weapon.
If this article was based on S.L.A. Marshall’s research, that research has been proved totaly false.
By Kevan Mynderup on Sep 4, 2009 at 5:04 pm