Comments on: Massacre At Malmédy During the Battle of the Bulge http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:03:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: A Terrorist We Should Have Prosecuted | Think Tank West http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-83372 A Terrorist We Should Have Prosecuted | Think Tank West Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:22:44 +0000 #comment-83372 [...] your custody is also a prosecutable war crime. We prosecuted German soldiers for doing this in the Malmedy Massacre, and have prosecuted our own soldiers for killing prisoners. We have even prosecuted contractors [...] [...] your custody is also a prosecutable war crime. We prosecuted German soldiers for doing this in the Malmedy Massacre, and have prosecuted our own soldiers for killing prisoners. We have even prosecuted contractors [...]

]]> By: Judi Governale http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-78632 Judi Governale Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:34:05 +0000 #comment-78632 To: James Tidwell,There is a casualty list on this web site.Go to Malmedy Massacre.US Army personnel involved in it. Judi To: James Tidwell,There is a casualty list on this web site.Go to
Malmedy Massacre.US Army personnel involved in it.

Judi

]]> By: Mike Smeets http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-78468 Mike Smeets Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:55:28 +0000 #comment-78468 To Judi: I would like to add that I also interviewed every still living Belgian who witnessed the events at the crossroads incl. Robert Pfeiffer. Together with him I visited the new 'Baugnez-museum' and I can tell you, he was very disappointed. I would love to hear from you. Mike Smeets To Judi:

I would like to add that I also interviewed every still living Belgian who witnessed the events at the crossroads incl. Robert Pfeiffer. Together with him I visited the new ‘Baugnez-museum’ and I can tell you, he was very disappointed.

I would love to hear from you.

Mike Smeets

]]> By: Mike Smeets http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-78462 Mike Smeets Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:48:45 +0000 #comment-78462 Hello My name is Mike Smeets. I am a 38 year old historical researcher from Landgraaf, The Netherlands. For many, many years now I have been studying the exploits of the German Battlegroup Peiper and its US adversaries during the Battle of the Bulge 1944. Over the years I have been able to contact many German and US veterans - incl. Malmedy survivors - who helped me reconstruct the events as they happened so many years ago. I am also in contact with several wellknown authors. As I am living very near to the beautiful Ardennes, I have visited the actual battlefields numerous times already. I am reading all of the very interesting messages and would be interested in correspondence with all of you concerning the crossroads, Dec.17 1944. Like I already mentioned I am in contact with/corresponded with serveral Malmedy survivors and even German eye.witnesses, so please do contact me so we can share information. If you are interested contact me at: mwhp.smeets@hotmail.com. With very best regards from The Netherlands, Mike Smeets Akkerwinde 27 6374 RD Landgraaf THE NETHERLANDS Hello

My name is Mike Smeets.
I am a 38 year old historical researcher from Landgraaf, The Netherlands. For many, many years now I have been studying the exploits of the German Battlegroup Peiper and its US adversaries during the Battle of the Bulge 1944. Over the years I have been able to contact many German and US veterans – incl. Malmedy survivors – who helped me reconstruct the events as they happened so many years ago. I am also in contact with several wellknown authors. As I am living very near to the beautiful Ardennes, I have visited the actual battlefields numerous times already.

I am reading all of the very interesting messages and would be interested in correspondence with all of you concerning the crossroads, Dec.17 1944. Like I already mentioned I am in contact with/corresponded with serveral Malmedy survivors and even German eye.witnesses, so please do contact me so we can share information.

If you are interested contact me at: mwhp.smeets@hotmail.com.

With very best regards from The Netherlands,

Mike Smeets

Akkerwinde 27
6374 RD Landgraaf
THE NETHERLANDS

]]> By: Judi Governale http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77687 Judi Governale Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:14:28 +0000 #comment-77687 David Lucas and Thomas Watt are both in the Group picture I have.The casuality list I have is only partial.According to the paperwork I have, approx 150 americans were involved,43 escaped of which three-quarters of these had been wounded. Only 25 men of Battery B roster of 138 reported safe after the event.The report says:others may come in later but unlikely as the area was still in German hands.Iam reading from classified copies that somehow mom got. David Lucas and Thomas Watt are both in the Group picture I
have.The casuality list I have is only partial.According to the
paperwork I have, approx 150 americans were involved,43 escaped of which three-quarters of these had been wounded.
Only 25 men of Battery B roster of 138 reported safe after the
event.The report says:others may come in later but unlikely
as the area was still in German hands.Iam reading from
classified copies that somehow mom got.

]]> By: Judi Governale http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77333 Judi Governale Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:40:37 +0000 #comment-77333 Charles Whiting wrote a book called "Massacre at Malmedy. In the book he examines the events through eyewitnesses including two who never appeared at the Dachau Trial.Paul Pfeiffer, a 15 year-old school boy at the time and Henry Le Joly now in his 70's and living across the street from the massacre site at the time The enemy troops involved in the attack massacre of battery B were believed to have been from 12th SS Panzer Division.Col. joachim Peiper who led the SS Troopers into Belgium served only 14 yrs in prison for the massacre.He was convicted on such questionable evidence. I wonder how many of those SS are still living? Charles Whiting wrote a book called “Massacre at Malmedy. In
the book he examines the events through eyewitnesses including
two who never appeared at the Dachau Trial.Paul Pfeiffer, a 15
year-old school boy at the time and Henry Le Joly now in his
70’s and living across the street from the massacre site at the time

The enemy troops involved in the attack massacre of battery
B were believed to have been from 12th SS Panzer Division.Col.
joachim Peiper who led the SS Troopers into Belgium served
only 14 yrs in prison for the massacre.He was convicted on such questionable evidence.
I wonder how many of those SS are still living?

]]> By: Judi Governale http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77311 Judi Governale Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:15:20 +0000 #comment-77311 I have a casualty list from the Malmedy massacre.Also have a group pictures with the mens names and a big list of names and addresses last updated in 1971.Found in my moms things. She was engaged to Sgt.Donald Geisler.He was in the front row of the massacre.By the way the history cannel has a video of the Malmedy Massacre.If you contact them you probably can get a copy.My mother had sent for one and I may still have it. My home phone is (928)758-5274.Need to know James uncle's name.Will look for him on the group picture also casualty list. I have a casualty list from the Malmedy massacre.Also have
a group pictures with the mens names and a big list of names
and addresses last updated in 1971.Found in my moms things.
She was engaged to Sgt.Donald Geisler.He was in the front row
of the massacre.By the way the history cannel has a video of
the Malmedy Massacre.If you contact them you probably can
get a copy.My mother had sent for one and I may still have it.
My home phone is (928)758-5274.Need to know James
uncle’s name.Will look for him on the group picture also
casualty list.

]]> By: James Tidwell http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-76850 James Tidwell Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:51:02 +0000 #comment-76850 How would you find a casualty list from the Malmedy massacre? I have been told that my great uncle was one of the victims. How would you find a casualty list from the Malmedy massacre? I have been told that my great uncle was one of the victims.

]]> By: Judi Governale http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-76679 Judi Governale Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:23:10 +0000 #comment-76679 My mother Lois Detwiler(now deceased) was to marry one of the victims killed at Malmedy.His name was Don from Altoona,PA. I have a few pictures.I can find his last name if I dig.He was a field surveyor .My mother never really got over over it.She was only 18 at the time.There was always a sadness about her.When she passed I was glad she could finally be with Don, the love of her life.Does anyone out there have any knowledge of him? My mother Lois Detwiler(now deceased) was to marry one of the
victims killed at Malmedy.His name was Don from Altoona,PA.
I have a few pictures.I can find his last name if I dig.He was a
field surveyor .My mother never really got over over it.She was
only 18 at the time.There was always a sadness about her.When
she passed I was glad she could finally be with Don, the love of her
life.Does anyone out there have any knowledge of him?

]]> By: Kathy H http://www.historynet.com/massacre-at-malmedy-during-the-battle-of-the-bulge.htm/comment-page-1#comment-74668 Kathy H Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:40:12 +0000 #comment-74668 My dad fought with the 2nd division from Omaha and through to Elsenborn Ridge and the Rhine, etc. He met a Belgian girl in Burg-Reuland before the Bulge. She later married him and came to the US. As my mother, she provided an insight into The War that I have not gotten from any history books. One of her many 'stories' was about the extremely young German soldiers whom her family encountered shortly before the Americans retook the area for the final time. They had little to no food rations, and although it was the dead of winter with thick snow on the ground and temperatures well below freezing, some of the German soldiers had no boots, only newspaper and cardboard, wrapped with burlap and tied with cord. Her non-military thoughts regarding the massacre were that if the German army could not feed its own, it certainly couldn't feed its prisoners. Another cruel reality of war. My dad, on the other hand, told few 'war stories,' only tales of some of his fellow soldiers. I saw my dad cry three times in my life. The first was when President Reagan commemorated the 40th anniversary of the D-Day invasions at Normandy. He did not cry for long, but clearly his pain was deep. The second was when his mother died. The third time he cried was when I had finally convinced him--at the age of 70--that he and my mom needed to 'go back.' He resisted long and hard. Then, suddenly he said, "I just want to see where those boys are buried" and choked back a ragged sob. Both my mother and I knew what he meant. The happy ending to this posting is that dad came back from his trip, a different man, a man far more at peace with himself. One of his photos from the trip showed him standing in front of the memorial at Malmedy with his arm around another man about his age, both of them smiling broadly. I asked who this gentleman was. He declared that it was Helmut (or someone) who was the curator (?) of the place. They had conversed and determined that they had actually fought against each other. The commanders who gave the orders tend to make the history books. But, as these postings attest, the ones who carried out those orders, who actually made the history, are/were our dads and uncles, grandfathers, brothers, and husbands. Just Dads and Helmuts. God bless them all. My dad fought with the 2nd division from Omaha and through to Elsenborn Ridge and the Rhine, etc. He met a Belgian girl in Burg-Reuland before the Bulge. She later married him and came to the US. As my mother, she provided an insight into The War that I have not gotten from any history books. One of her many ’stories’ was about the extremely young German soldiers whom her family encountered shortly before the Americans retook the area for the final time. They had little to no food rations, and although it was the dead of winter with thick snow on the ground and temperatures well below freezing, some of the German soldiers had no boots, only newspaper and cardboard, wrapped with burlap and tied with cord. Her non-military thoughts regarding the massacre were that if the German army could not feed its own, it certainly couldn’t feed its prisoners. Another cruel reality of war.
My dad, on the other hand, told few ‘war stories,’ only tales of some of his fellow soldiers. I saw my dad cry three times in my life. The first was when President Reagan commemorated the 40th anniversary of the D-Day invasions at Normandy. He did not cry for long, but clearly his pain was deep. The second was when his mother died. The third time he cried was when I had finally convinced him–at the age of 70–that he and my mom needed to ‘go back.’ He resisted long and hard. Then, suddenly he said, “I just want to see where those boys are buried” and choked back a ragged sob. Both my mother and I knew what he meant.
The happy ending to this posting is that dad came back from his trip, a different man, a man far more at peace with himself. One of his photos from the trip showed him standing in front of the memorial at Malmedy with his arm around another man about his age, both of them smiling broadly. I asked who this gentleman was. He declared that it was Helmut (or someone) who was the curator (?) of the place. They had conversed and determined that they had actually fought against each other.
The commanders who gave the orders tend to make the history books. But, as these postings attest, the ones who carried out those orders, who actually made the history, are/were our dads and uncles, grandfathers, brothers, and husbands. Just Dads and Helmuts. God bless them all.

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