Comments on: Kiowa Chief Satanta http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=kiowa-chief-satanta From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:24:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Lona J. Obenhaus http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-690545 Lona J. Obenhaus Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:38:32 +0000 #comment-690545 I am also a descendant of Gray Goose, he was supposedly the father of my great grandmother Lula Louise Lewis Williams Skains. Any info would be appreciated. thanks I am also a descendant of Gray Goose, he was supposedly the father of my great grandmother Lula Louise Lewis Williams Skains. Any info would be appreciated. thanks

]]> By: Rubio http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-652798 Rubio Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:03:29 +0000 #comment-652798 Although rarely able to field more than 300-400 warriors at a time, the Kiowa were feared and respected throughout the southern, and central plains and rightly so. Allied later with the Comanche, they kept the mighty Southern Cheyenne and Arapahoe tribes from crossing the Platte and Arkansas Rivers. They also destroyed to a man 48 members of the Cheyenne "Bow String Society" who along with the dreaded Cheyenne"Dog Soldiers", were among the warrior elite of the Cheyenne Nation. In addition,during the battle of Wolf Creek, although initially surprised by a sudden attack, the Kiowa and their Comanche allies, after a protracted fierce battle, succeeded in driving the Cheyenne away. Technically it was a draw, though from a moral and psychological perspective, the advantage lay with the Kiowa and Comanche. We're talkin Cheyenne here. The one tribe universally respected by friend and foe alike whenever and wherever they were encountered. Though the Cheyenne were credited with driving the Kiowa from the Black Hills, this was due to overwhelming numbers rather than any superior innate fighting qualities. My personal opinion is that they, the Kiowa, along with the Cheyenne were the toughest fighters, "pound for pound" if you like, on the central and southern plains. The greatest powers on the plains, and this is due primarily to numbers of warriors and access to ammunition, were the Sioux, the Comanche and as quiet as its kept, the Blackfoot Confederacy, a group that handed the mighty Sioux many defeats over the years. See page 125-130 of the book Piegan" which documents a tale of Sitting Bull and a band of Hunkpapa Sioux in a scrape with the southern Blackfoot, or "Piegan" OK Indian buffs, thats it Peace Although rarely able to field more than 300-400 warriors at a time, the Kiowa were feared and respected throughout the southern, and central plains and rightly so. Allied later with the Comanche, they kept the mighty Southern Cheyenne and Arapahoe tribes from crossing the Platte and Arkansas Rivers.

They also destroyed to a man 48 members of the Cheyenne "Bow String Society" who along with the dreaded Cheyenne"Dog Soldiers", were among the warrior elite of the Cheyenne Nation. In addition,during the battle of Wolf Creek, although initially surprised by a sudden attack, the Kiowa and their Comanche allies, after a protracted fierce battle, succeeded in driving the Cheyenne away.

Technically it was a draw, though from a moral and psychological perspective, the advantage lay with the Kiowa and Comanche.
We're talkin Cheyenne here. The one tribe universally respected by friend and foe alike whenever and wherever they were encountered. Though the Cheyenne were credited with driving the Kiowa from the Black Hills, this was due to overwhelming numbers rather than any superior innate fighting qualities.

My personal opinion is that they, the Kiowa, along with the Cheyenne were the toughest fighters, "pound for pound" if you like, on the central and southern plains. The greatest powers on the plains, and this is due primarily to numbers of warriors and access to ammunition, were the Sioux, the Comanche and as quiet as its kept, the Blackfoot Confederacy, a group that handed the mighty Sioux many defeats over the years.

See page 125-130 of the book Piegan" which documents a tale of Sitting Bull and a band of Hunkpapa Sioux in a scrape with the southern Blackfoot, or "Piegan" OK Indian buffs, thats it

Peace

]]> By: Lynn Fair http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-649944 Lynn Fair Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:00:46 +0000 #comment-649944 Vanessa - Santanta (White Bear) was a war chief of the Kiowa Tribe in the late 1860's. He was not the Chief that chewed his wrists. Satank (Sitting Bear) was the head of the Koitsenko (The 10 Bravest of his tribe) and the Chief that, while being transported from Fort Sill to Jacksboro, Texas to stand trial for the murder of the 7 Teamsters of the Warren Wagon Train Massacure. He would not get in the wagon so soldiers threw him in a wagon by himself. Satanta and Big Tree, also being transported to Texas were in another wagon. As the wagons and escort left Fort Sill, Satank covered his head with his blanket and began singing his death song. While unter the blanket, he chewed his wrists to free himself from his shackles. Satank had hidden a knief in his breech clouth that was not found when the soldiers searched him for weapons. With his hands free of the shackles, he retrieved the hidden knife and lunged at the driver, knocking him off the wagon seat. Satank grabbed for the soldier's carbine but before he could shoot, he was killed by one of the escort soldiers. They threw his body out of the wagon on the side of the road, where the Indian scouts scalped him. Being afraid to retrieve the body, his tribe would not go near his body. Eventually soldiers from Fort Sill retrieved the body and burried it in the Fort Sill Cemetary. Vanessa – Santanta (White Bear) was a war chief of the Kiowa Tribe in the late 1860's. He was not the Chief that chewed his wrists. Satank (Sitting Bear) was the head of the Koitsenko (The 10 Bravest of his tribe) and the Chief that, while being transported from Fort Sill to Jacksboro, Texas to stand trial for the murder of the 7 Teamsters of the Warren Wagon Train Massacure. He would not get in the wagon so soldiers threw him in a wagon by himself. Satanta and Big Tree, also being transported to Texas were in another wagon. As the wagons and escort left Fort Sill, Satank covered his head with his blanket and began singing his death song. While unter the blanket, he chewed his wrists to free himself from his shackles. Satank had hidden a knief in his breech clouth that was not found when the soldiers searched him for weapons. With his hands free of the shackles, he retrieved the hidden knife and lunged at the driver, knocking him off the wagon seat. Satank grabbed for the soldier's carbine but before he could shoot, he was killed by one of the escort soldiers. They threw his body out of the wagon on the side of the road, where the Indian scouts scalped him. Being afraid to retrieve the body, his tribe would not go near his body. Eventually soldiers from Fort Sill retrieved the body and burried it in the Fort Sill Cemetary.

]]> By: Mara http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-463454 Mara Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:34:04 +0000 #comment-463454 AWESOME!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!

]]> By: Sue Jensen http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-459016 Sue Jensen Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:33:44 +0000 #comment-459016 I am a descendant of chief Satanta's through Gray Goose. Please contact me, I will be glad share with you my information. Thanks, look forward to hearing from you. RVPM@AOL.COM I am a descendant of chief Satanta's through Gray Goose. Please contact
me, I will be glad share with you my information.

Thanks, look forward to hearing from you. RVPM@AOL.COM

]]> By: mishelle http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-451759 mishelle Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:41:07 +0000 #comment-451759 its pretty good its pretty good

]]> By: Terry J Gorton http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-377684 Terry J Gorton Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:39:51 +0000 #comment-377684 I am a descendant of chief Satants through Grey goose and would like to find out how to contact the Kiowa tribe. Can anyone help me, please? I am a descendant of chief Satants through Grey goose and would like to find out how to contact the Kiowa tribe. Can anyone help me, please?

]]> By: D Tsonetokoy Sr http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-291507 D Tsonetokoy Sr Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:29:41 +0000 #comment-291507 Sate-tigh-day may even have been a mysterious ruddy-skinned cadet who attended West Point during the 1850s. Sate-tigh-day may even have been a mysterious ruddy-skinned cadet who attended West Point during the 1850s.

]]> By: Sonny Perry http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-124711 Sonny Perry Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:37:13 +0000 #comment-124711 Satanta means "white bear". He never chewed a hand off, but it is reported that in his last days in prison, he gazed out the bars toward home. Some accounts have him diving out of a prison hospital window. I believe the guards sympathized with him because of his broken spirit. For decades he was buried in the prison cemetery a few hundred yards from where he jumped into eternity. Sonny Satanta means "white bear". He never chewed a hand off, but it is reported that in his last days in prison, he gazed out the bars toward home. Some accounts have him diving out of a prison hospital window. I believe the guards sympathized with him because of his broken spirit.

For decades he was buried in the prison cemetery a few hundred yards from where he jumped into eternity.

Sonny

]]> By: Vanessa http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm#comment-16422 Vanessa Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:29:19 +0000 #comment-16422 I was told by my ancestors Chief Satanta had chewed at his own wrist to free hisself and the two other involved to be hung and by doing so he was able to free hisself and them. It is why he was referred to as Chief Satan. I was told by my ancestors Chief Satanta had chewed at his own
wrist to free hisself and the two other involved to be hung and by
doing so he was able to free hisself and them. It is why he was
referred to as Chief Satan.

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