Comments on: Immortal 600: Prisoners Under Fire at Charleston Harbor During the American Civil War http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:15:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Krista Noble http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-779336 Krista Noble Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:44:04 +0000 #comment-779336 To A. McKelvey - John Walker Frasier is also MY great-great-grandfather. I have done a bit of research on him, but would love to collaborate. Please contact me at uknobles@gmail.com. To A. McKelvey – John Walker Frasier is also MY great-great-grandfather. I have done a bit of research on him, but would love to collaborate. Please contact me at uknobles@gmail.com.

]]> By: RON EATON http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-778952 RON EATON Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:00:32 +0000 #comment-778952 THIS WAS SHAMEFUL OF THE NORTH. THEY COULD AFFORD TO FEED AND CLOTH PRISONERS. THE SOUTH COULDN'T. THEY GAVE THEM WHAT THEY HAD. MY 3RD GREAT UNCLE WAS IN THE 600. HE WAS FROM WINCHESTER VA. LT. JEFFERSON WILLIAM OBET FUNK CO.A 5TH VIRGINIA INFANTRY. HE DIED AT FT. DELAWARE AFTER BEING SHIPPED UP AND DOWN THE COAST. THIS WAS SHAMEFUL OF THE NORTH. THEY COULD AFFORD TO FEED AND CLOTH PRISONERS. THE SOUTH COULDN'T. THEY GAVE THEM WHAT THEY HAD. MY 3RD GREAT UNCLE WAS IN THE 600. HE WAS FROM WINCHESTER VA. LT. JEFFERSON WILLIAM OBET FUNK CO.A 5TH VIRGINIA INFANTRY. HE DIED AT FT. DELAWARE AFTER BEING SHIPPED UP AND DOWN THE COAST.

]]> By: Peggie Hurteau http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-778608 Peggie Hurteau Mon, 26 Sep 2011 00:40:58 +0000 #comment-778608 I have found this info on Immortal 600 very interesting. One of the prisoners in the group was Capt. Samuel J. Johnson, from White Co. Tennessee, who after the war, purchased the farm which had once belonged to Champ Ferguson. I am in the process of creating a small display of this info in our White Co. Heritage Museum in Sparta, Tn. Capt. Johnson's descendants continue to reside in White Co. I have found this info on Immortal 600 very interesting. One of the prisoners in the group was Capt. Samuel J. Johnson, from White Co. Tennessee, who after the war, purchased the farm which had once belonged to Champ Ferguson. I am in the process of creating a small display of this info in our White Co. Heritage Museum in Sparta, Tn. Capt. Johnson's descendants continue to reside in White Co.

]]> By: NCRES http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-671744 NCRES Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:17:37 +0000 #comment-671744 But to be fair the Confederates made an effort to feed their POWs. The same cannot be said for Confederate POWs in Union camps such as Camp Douglas. The reason they looked like that was because the North's aggressive campaign to destroy all the Southerners means of sustinence. The North willingly destroyed all means of food production and therefore not only damned thousands of Southerners to starvation, but their own POWs. It's shameful to look at the official records of the War of Northern Aggression. But to be fair the Confederates made an effort to feed their POWs. The same cannot be said for Confederate POWs in Union camps such as Camp Douglas. The reason they looked like that was because the North's aggressive campaign to destroy all the Southerners means of sustinence. The North willingly destroyed all means of food production and therefore not only damned thousands of Southerners to starvation, but their own POWs. It's shameful to look at the official records of the War of Northern Aggression.

]]> By: Bill Allen http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-653628 Bill Allen Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:39:09 +0000 #comment-653628 I recall reading the rules for treatment of pow, were to something like..prisoners shall be accorded similar food and clothing as the guards ate and wore. Everyone know the south couldnt even properly cloth and feed their soldiers, much less the union pow's. On the other hand the north had adequate food and clothes but chose to starve and with hold proper clothing and blankets. With the blessing's of the highest in command of the north. This has been well documented...and leads me to the conclussion the north purposefully ended the exchange programs not because the exchanged northern pow's were in such bad shape and couldnt return to duty...the confederates pow's were in the same sad shape and did return to duty...I believe the fact is many more northerners simply deserted than did southerners..therfore it was not in the best interest of the north to exchange..The north was well aware of the terrible conditions of union prisoners...and chose to let them suffer and die... I think that is shamefull, and I really wish more people knew about it..and I also wish History channel would make a documentary about this, Mauriel Phillips Joslyn, has already written the story...and what a fine job she did. I recall reading the rules for treatment of pow, were to something like..prisoners shall be accorded similar food and clothing as the guards ate and wore. Everyone know the south couldnt even properly cloth and feed their soldiers, much less the union pow's. On the other hand the north had adequate food and clothes but chose to starve and with hold proper clothing and blankets. With the blessing's of the highest in command of the north. This has been well documented…and leads me to the conclussion the north purposefully ended the exchange programs not because the exchanged northern pow's were in such bad shape and couldnt return to duty…the confederates pow's were in the same sad shape and did return to duty…I believe the fact is many more northerners simply deserted than did southerners..therfore it was not in the best interest of the north to exchange..The north was well aware of the terrible conditions of union prisoners…and chose to let them suffer and die… I think that is shamefull, and I really wish more people knew about it..and I also wish History channel would make a documentary about this, Mauriel Phillips Joslyn, has already written the story…and what a fine job she did.

]]> By: The Immortal 600 | Marching Post http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-546838 The Immortal 600 | Marching Post Tue, 03 May 2011 12:18:28 +0000 #comment-546838 [...] of Confederate Veterans in Georgia who have championed the cause of the Immortals. The third is a long history of the Immortal 600 from HistoryNet. And last but not least are three books: one which list the entire roster of the [...] [...] of Confederate Veterans in Georgia who have championed the cause of the Immortals. The third is a long history of the Immortal 600 from HistoryNet. And last but not least are three books: one which list the entire roster of the [...]

]]> By: A. McKelvey http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-527433 A. McKelvey Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:45:21 +0000 #comment-527433 My great-grandfather, John Walker Frasier, of the 1st Virginia Calvary was a member of the immortal 600. He was held as a prisoner of war at Ft. Delaware. We have his military records and a letter that he wrote in about 1905 about his memories of the "600". Until we started researching family history we did not realize the importance of some of the papers. Like most veterans, I do not think that my great- grandfather ever shared the event with his family. His son, my Uncle George, was alive at the time I was in American history classes in middle school. I remember asking about my family's history and this story did not come up. It has been interesting reading this article. My great-grandfather, John Walker Frasier, of the 1st Virginia Calvary was a member of the immortal 600. He was held as a prisoner of war at Ft. Delaware. We have his military records and a letter that he wrote in about 1905 about his memories of the "600". Until we started researching family history we did not realize the importance of some of the papers. Like most veterans, I do not think that my great- grandfather ever shared the event with his family. His son, my Uncle George, was alive at the time I was in American history classes in middle school. I remember asking about my family's history and this story did not come up. It has been interesting reading this article.

]]> By: J. McParland http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-432796 J. McParland Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:50:38 +0000 #comment-432796 The Immortal 600 were the first prisoners of war to be used in a policy of Retaliation which was proposed in 1865 by Senator Henry Smith Lane of Indiana. Although proposed to congress in January 1865 and defeated, it had already been unofficially adapted as administration policy in 1864. It reads: Rebel prisoners in our hands are to be subjected to a treatment finding its parallels only in the conduct of savage tribes and resulting in the death of multitudes by the slow but designed process of starvation and by mortal diseases occasioned by insufficient and unhealthy food and wanton exposure of their persons to the inclemency of the weather. We should take the lives of prisoners, even by freezing and starvation, or turn them into living skeletons by act of Congress. The resolution declares that in the opinion of Congress 'such retaliation ought to be inflicted upon the insurgent officers now in our hands, or hereafter to fall into our hands, as prisoners; that such officers ought to be subjected to like treatment practiced toward our officers.....in respect to quantity and quality of food, clothing, fuel, medicine, medical attention, personal exposure, or other mode of dealing with them'. Do what? Assassinate a captive after he has surrendered? After he has laid down his arms at your feet, assassinate him in cold blood? Not only that but we must expose them to the inclemency of the weather! Not only that, but we must give them unhealthy food, that disease may come upon them and they may die of horrible disease! Not only that, but we shall deny to them food, that they may die by starvation. What kind of sick, sad, mind could think that up? A US Senator no less. Should we not be a proud nation when men like this at one time directed the course we were to take? The Immortal 600 were the first prisoners of war to be used in a policy of Retaliation which was proposed in 1865 by Senator Henry Smith Lane of Indiana. Although proposed to congress in January 1865 and defeated, it had already been unofficially adapted as administration policy in 1864. It reads:
Rebel prisoners in our hands are to be subjected to a treatment finding its parallels only in the conduct of savage tribes and resulting in the death of multitudes by the slow but designed process of starvation and by mortal diseases occasioned by insufficient and unhealthy food and wanton exposure of their persons to the inclemency of the weather.
We should take the lives of prisoners, even by freezing and starvation, or turn them into living skeletons by act of Congress. The resolution declares that in the opinion of Congress 'such retaliation ought to be inflicted upon the insurgent officers now in our hands, or hereafter to fall into our hands, as prisoners; that such officers ought to be subjected to like treatment practiced toward our officers…..in respect to quantity and quality of food, clothing, fuel, medicine, medical attention, personal exposure, or other mode of dealing with them'. Do what? Assassinate a captive after he has surrendered? After he has laid down his arms at your feet, assassinate him in cold blood? Not only that but we must expose them to the inclemency of the weather! Not only that, but we must give them unhealthy food, that disease may come upon them and they may die of horrible disease! Not only that, but we shall deny to them food, that they may die by starvation.
What kind of sick, sad, mind could think that up? A US Senator no less. Should we not be a proud nation when men like this at one time directed the course we were to take?

]]> By: Meg http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-283145 Meg Sun, 23 May 2010 16:43:49 +0000 #comment-283145 My g-grandfather was one of the Immortal 600 and I am researching the story. Unfortunately, this article is so poorly written and organized that I stopped reading midway. The information is good, but the article needs editing. Please consider editing and restructuring this article and then re-posting. If a descendant of one of these men researching her family history can't stay interested in it, something is seriously wrong. My g-grandfather was one of the Immortal 600 and I am researching the story.

Unfortunately, this article is so poorly written and organized that I stopped reading midway.

The information is good, but the article needs editing.

Please consider editing and restructuring this article and then re-posting.

If a descendant of one of these men researching her family history can't stay interested in it, something is seriously wrong.

]]> By: Why no photos of Confederates in the Fort Fisher collection? – Behind the Headlines - Wilmington Star News - Wilmington, NC - Archive http://www.historynet.com/immortal-600-prisoners-under-fire-at-charleston-harbor-during-the-american-civil-war.htm#comment-182956 Why no photos of Confederates in the Fort Fisher collection? – Behind the Headlines - Wilmington Star News - Wilmington, NC - Archive Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:22:13 +0000 #comment-182956 [...] great-great-grandfather fought with the Confederates. Indeed, Col. John Lucas Cantwell was one of the Immortal 600, prisoners placed on the beach in front of Union fortifications on Morris Island, near Charleston, [...] [...] great-great-grandfather fought with the Confederates. Indeed, Col. John Lucas Cantwell was one of the Immortal 600, prisoners placed on the beach in front of Union fortifications on Morris Island, near Charleston, [...]

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