Comments on: Greco-Persian Wars: Battle of Thermopylae http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sun, 19 May 2013 02:58:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Diekplous http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-827930 Diekplous Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:10:06 +0000 #comment-827930 "...xerxis father has make a crusade to conguaer Greece with 100.000 troops. and he failed at the battle of marathon lost..." Love to see some source evidence for that figure. Nonsense. Utter nonsense. The battle of Plataea took place the year following Salamis (479). I've little idea where you find a two year gap after which Persia has to make "another capmaign to conguer Athens". "…xerxis father has make a crusade to conguaer Greece with 100.000 troops. and he failed at the battle of marathon lost…"

Love to see some source evidence for that figure. Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

The battle of Plataea took place the year following Salamis (479). I've little idea where you find a two year gap after which Persia has to make "another capmaign to conguer Athens".

]]> By: Athanasios http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-827920 Athanasios Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:26:57 +0000 #comment-827920 *************************************************** My opinion about the percian forces is more than 250.000 overall. why? *************************************************** 1) 10 years before, at 490bc xerxis father has make a crusade to conguaer Greece with 100.000 troops. and he failed at the battle of marathon lost. So if he sons want to take revedge he wont make crusade again with the same troops but at least double. 2) after the battle of thermopylae, many persians have been killed. also many persians have been killed in the naval battle on artemision from Athenians. So the rest of them have tried flee back in their empire. BUT they hadnt flee all persians, they have left forces to greece and 2 years after have make another capmaign to conguer ATHENS, as a revedge for the lost naval battle. And again have failed to conguer them in the battle of plataies. So where did they found so many reinforces and reserves to make another capmaign 2 years after? just make the maths, callculate the looses during those 2 capmaigns, calculate the looses due to healt disieases and starvation, also those that have flee... ***************************************************
My opinion about the percian forces is more than 250.000 overall.
why?
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1) 10 years before, at 490bc xerxis father has make a crusade to conguaer Greece with 100.000 troops. and he failed at the battle of marathon lost. So if he sons want to take revedge he wont make crusade again with the same troops but at least double.

2) after the battle of thermopylae, many persians have been killed. also many persians have been killed in the naval battle on artemision from Athenians. So the rest of them have tried flee back in their empire. BUT they hadnt flee all persians, they have left forces to greece and 2 years after have make another capmaign to conguer ATHENS, as a revedge for the lost naval battle. And again have failed to conguer them in the battle of plataies. So where did they found so many reinforces and reserves to make another capmaign 2 years after? just make the maths, callculate the looses during those 2 capmaigns, calculate the looses due to healt disieases and starvation, also those that have flee…

]]> By: John Merkatatis http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-826967 John Merkatatis Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:30:18 +0000 #comment-826967 Greek-Persian wars Phase I,defensive wars of the Greeks Marathon:42 klms north west of Athens 490 BC Athenians vs Persians cause:Athenian intervention in the Ionian revolt Thermopylae:central eastern Greece,480 BC Spartans and allies vs Persians: sea battle of Salamis: in the straights between the island of Salamis and the mainland of Attica(Athens) 480 BC,Greeks vs Persians battle of Plataea: on the plain north of Asopos river and the city of Plataea in the district of Boiotea 479 BC Reason:Persian attempt to subjugate Greece Greek-Persian wars Phase I,defensive wars of the Greeks

Marathon:42 klms north west of Athens 490 BC Athenians vs Persians
cause:Athenian intervention in the Ionian revolt

Thermopylae:central eastern Greece,480 BC Spartans and allies vs Persians:

sea battle of Salamis: in the straights between the island of Salamis and the mainland of Attica(Athens) 480 BC,Greeks vs Persians

battle of Plataea: on the plain north of Asopos river and the city of Plataea
in the district of Boiotea 479 BC

Reason:Persian attempt to subjugate Greece

]]> By: Emily http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-826964 Emily Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:37:27 +0000 #comment-826964 I have a few questions about a few battles (here are the battles) •Battle of Marathon •Battle of Thermopylae •Battle of Salamis •Battle of Plataea (here are the questions that I need for all of these battles) •Who was involved in the conflict •What was the conflict •when the conflict took place •where the conflict took place I have a few questions about a few battles
(here are the battles)
•Battle of Marathon
•Battle of Thermopylae
•Battle of Salamis
•Battle of Plataea
(here are the questions that I need for all of these battles)
•Who was involved in the conflict
•What was the conflict
•when the conflict took place
•where the conflict took place

]]> By: Diekplous http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-825497 Diekplous Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:23:35 +0000 #comment-825497 "Diodorus is not a primary source and Herodotus is not a reliable one especially in numbers and intentions as it has also been mentioned here..." And just whose numbers do you think the "foremost expert" on the Persian wars (A R Burn) will have relied upon? The numbers for Thermopylae (Greek) are as good as you're going to get. But, fell free to ignore the sources. "Jensen,the numbers are taken from professor's A.R.Burn:"Persia and The Greeks",who is the formost modern authority on ancient Greek History" And there's a primary source if ever there was one?! Awful glad I was never subjected to one of your classes. "Diodorus is not a primary source and Herodotus is not a reliable one especially in numbers and intentions as it has also been mentioned here…"

And just whose numbers do you think the "foremost expert" on the Persian wars (A R Burn) will have relied upon?

The numbers for Thermopylae (Greek) are as good as you're going to get. But, fell free to ignore the sources.

"Jensen,the numbers are taken from professor's A.R.Burn:"Persia and The Greeks",who is the formost modern authority on ancient Greek History"

And there's a primary source if ever there was one?!

Awful glad I was never subjected to one of your classes.

]]> By: John Merkatatis http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-822083 John Merkatatis Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:36:15 +0000 #comment-822083 Yes you are right;if you were one of my students you would change subject since with this attitude and in disregard of true sources you would never pass. Yes you are right;if you were one of my students you would change subject
since with this attitude and in disregard of true sources you would never pass.

]]> By: Diekplous http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-822073 Diekplous Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:56:53 +0000 #comment-822073 Given the number of comments you've made on this, it appears you think that you are an incontrovertible expert. Any who might question or disagree are "superfluous or irrelevant". I disagree totally. Re-read and you may learn. Given the number of comments you've made on this, it appears you think that you are an incontrovertible expert. Any who might question or disagree are "superfluous or irrelevant".

I disagree totally.

Re-read and you may learn.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-821945 Anonymous Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:01:56 +0000 #comment-821945 Not a good movie though Not a good movie though

]]> By: John Merkatatis http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-821942 John Merkatatis Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:42:05 +0000 #comment-821942 Diekplous Diodorus is not a primary source and Herodotus is not a reliable one especially in numbers and intentions as it has also been mentioned here Read "Historiae"( English translation) and especially the 42 pages of introduction where the critisism by most historians are centered. Generally your comments and and point of writing is from superfluous to irrelevant. Diekplous

Diodorus is not a primary source and Herodotus is not a reliable one especially in numbers and intentions as it has also been mentioned here
Read "Historiae"( English translation) and especially the 42 pages of introduction where the critisism by most historians are centered.

Generally your comments and and point of writing is from superfluous to
irrelevant.

]]> By: Liam http://www.historynet.com/greco-persian-wars-battle-of-thermopylae.htm#comment-821940 Liam Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:19:20 +0000 #comment-821940 They were Thebans that surrendered, and the Thesbians who stood and fought more heroically than the Spartans. The Thesbians sent every able bodied man and boy to fight in the battle from their city state, and they all died. That's heroism. In reference to the article, good source for Freshman or sophomore year, but I saw some number problems and problems in the perspective in the paper. They were Thebans that surrendered, and the Thesbians who stood and fought more heroically than the Spartans. The Thesbians sent every able bodied man and boy to fight in the battle from their city state, and they all died. That's heroism.

In reference to the article, good source for Freshman or sophomore year, but I saw some number problems and problems in the perspective in the paper.

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