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German POWs and the Art of SurvivalBy Simon Rees | Military History | 12 comments | Print This Post | Email This Post In October 1945, a Russian major at the hospital told Lorman his group was to be repatriated. The major then asked coolly whether he should allow the SS men among the group to return. “Why not?” replied Lorman. “They also have homes to go to.” The major knew well enough Lorman had been SS and was just toying with him. On October 13, 1945, he was given his discharge papers. Subscribe Today
Traveling with a friend, Lorman headed west, hoping to reach his family’s last known address, a house in the Austrian province of Steiermark. On October 18, the two arrived in the ravaged remains of Berlin and headed for the French sector. Lorman’s friend was a French national from Alsace-Lorraine, and to continue on their journey, they would need proper documentation. They headed to a French military police station to file the necessary paperwork. Instead, both men were handcuffed and detained. On discovering their detainees were former Waffen SS soldiers, the French authorities threw Lorman into solitary confinement in Tegel Prison while taking the man from Alsace-Lorraine for questioning elsewhere. Stuck in a cell measuring 6 by 12 feet, Lorman now had to contend with loneliness and lack of exercise. “I didn’t have any contact with the occupant of the neighboring cell,” he said. “All I did see day after endless day was the same cramped cell.” “The food we were given was not quite enough for survival, only for gradual dying,” said Lorman. “But to be fair, few people outside the prison gates were eating much better. By the end of the first nine months of this existence my weight was down to 103 pounds (I was 6 feet tall), and my morale was lower than the proverbial snake’s belly.” In desperation, Lorman hatched a plan to gain his warders’ attention. Complaining of sporadic headaches, he managed to hoard about a dozen aspirin, which he hid in his cell. When they found his stash during the next cell inspection, the guards asked Lorman for an explanation. “I intend to kill myself,” he cried out. “Just look at me!” The ploy worked, and the French authorities granted Lorman contact with other prisoners and even a job in the cookhouse. “Even though after each day’s work I still had to return to my single cell,” he said, “both my spirit and my body soon recovered.” Lorman was finally released on February 19, 1947, when he was 23. “I was set free into the chaotic postwar world to fend for myself,” he recalled. But it would be years before Lorman and his family would be reunited. Rudi Janssen experienced detention at the hands of the British. A country lad, he volunteered for service a year early at 17 in the first months of 1943 and was later called up to the Waffen SS. Trained as a signalman, he eventually arrived on the Eastern Front with a panzer unit in 1944. In early 1945 the Red Army started its drive into Nazi territory. One branch of its offensive swung north and cut off some German units in the east—including Janssen’s—from the rest of the Reich. Pushed back to positions near the Bay of Danzig, Janssen and his comrades endured a heavy artillery barrage that lasted several days while higher command attempted to evacuate the unit. “Now there was a real feeling of defeat,” he said, “a resignation that it was the end.” Those lucky enough to be evacuated were taken to positions on a nearby peninsula, though still within range of the Red Army guns. Wounded in the leg by shrapnel during the bombardment, Janssen was later evacuated to Rostock by fast boat. “After a few days convalescing, a doctor came round to our ward and told those of us who were ‘walking wounded’ that the Russians would be arriving soon,” he recalled. “And that those who wanted to move out should do so now.” Pages: 1 2 3 4 5Tags: Historical Conflicts, People, Politics, Social History, World War II
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12 Comments to “German POWs and the Art of Survival”
Can any one tell me, even in rough terms, the percentage of German POWS that remained in America after WWII. I cannot seem to find it any where on-line. Thanks fo any suggestions.
Bennie
By Ben Rayner on Jul 5, 2008 at 1:58 pm
There are at least 1% of German/Axis POW (of more than 420 thousand incarcerated) remained in the U.S. who didn’t want to return by the end of 1947. Especially of the few thousand Russian Red army who switched side and fought for the Nazi in the western front. Unfortunately they were repatriated to Gulag by Stalin’s order.
There are many others who befriend the locals around the area nearby, married American women and stay after the war. Most of them are located in the mid-west where majority Americans are German or central Europena decendents. I remember talking to a lady in Memphis, TN back in the 1970′ when she remembered fondly the German POW boys she and her friends used to social with. Apparently most of the POW camps had very relaxed control then and even allowed inmates to go out to the towns.
There are some German POW, who after repatriation, couldn’t find jobs in 1950′ Germany and decided to come back to U.S. by immigration.
By George Chen on Jul 26, 2008 at 4:20 am
I cannot find books or articles about German POWs in USSR, before the end of WWII and after WWII. I kow alot of German POWS died due to hard labor and diseases. The Russians would not give the Red Cross a list of German POWs. Did any of the POWs that were eventually released (some) in 1955, write a book?
Did the German government help these men with jobs, housing?
What happened to the POWS that had homes in E. Germany?
I am really upset that Roosevelt and Churchill did nothing to help these Germans. Stalin was playing them as fools and they just followed. I read Stalin viewed Roosevelt as an invalid, and Churchill as a drunk. The Russians committed terrible crimes.
By Daphne Gilbertson on Nov 25, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Those switched russian pows or general Vlasov soldiers sent to gulags further they sent to various hard labor camps. One group of them came to Mongolia during early 50’s and built Mongolian railroad. Also japanese pows used in various hard labor camps in several Mongolian locations.
By Orgo on Dec 8, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Its not surprising that most of the German POW’s that ended up in the hands of the Russian didn’t survive…..There would not have been a war crimes trial after the war if Stalin had had his way…..he wanted to line all the Nazi leaders up and shoot them…
He told Truman and Churchill that holding a trial was a total waste of time……
I believe the Russians looked upon German POW’s as less than human and basically wanted revenge for what the Germans had done to the Russians earlier….With that being said, the Russians had very little compassion or empathy for any of the people they “liberated” in Eastern Europe. I use the term “liberated” very loosely….
Look at the Katyn incident that happened early on…over 20,000 Poles were line up and shot by the Russians and then buried in mass graves….
Stalin was determined to expand/extend communism over the “liberated” nations of Eastern Europe. He promised both FDR and Churchill that “free elections” would be held in Eastern Europe once the war was over, but he never really planned to follow through with his promise….Churchill knew that and said that very thing to FDR but FDR was determined to give “Uncle Joe” the benefit of the doubt…..
The conquest/partition of Poland had been on the drawing board for both Stalin and Hitler for a long time…..years before the German attack on Poland in 1939.
The neutrality treaty signed by both Stalin and Hitler prior to the war, clearly out-lined what was going to happen to Poland and what part of Poland was going to the Russians and what part would be given to Germany…..
Keep in mind that Poland had been recreated at the end of World War I and most of the land that was set aside for the new Poland came from previous German and Russian territory…
By Larry Burgess on May 20, 2009 at 2:21 pm
My father-in-law was a German SS officerand POW who was held in Tennesee. Hremained in the USA after the war. He married my wife’s mother and still lives in Montana at age 90 with her. He receives veteren benefits from Germany every month still! He said he worked on a flower farm as a prisoner and was treated so well he wanted to remain here. He was a panzer commander for the SS Totenkopf division but was not a war criminal. He does have the tattoo under his armpit. He has only returned to germany maybe 2 times. He loves the USA.
By Seattle Mike on May 21, 2009 at 11:14 am
Interesting to hear about your father in law ; I am making a book about lost German prisoners in Russia and USA and already found some interesting stories
Could you please contact me on my email Adam.all@mail.ru
Regards
Adam
By Adam on May 24, 2009 at 7:44 am
it is sad that so many german soldiers were missing after the war,the russians were truly ruthless toward the german soldier and with good reason,however all these german soldiers who surrendered should have had the chance to start over their lives, many lives were cut short,much suffering was present,to not know the fate of loved ones who fought in the war is simply intolerable.
By christopher paul weber on May 26, 2009 at 1:28 am
My father was in the 186th FA Battalion, US First Army from Normandy to the war’s end. After VE Day, they were scheduled to return to the US and prepare for the invasion of Japan. Thankfully, the bombs made that unnecessary. As my father had prior service, he had enough points to get an early discharge. He was sent west from Czechoslovakia to Cherbourg for his return home in September 1945.
As he crossed Germany, he noticed railway trains packed with German prisoners also heading west. He asked where they were going, and was told they were being sent to work in France – as slave laborers! He told me that made him very angry, saying “That was the sort of thing we had been fighting to stop.” He was a conscript himself, and said so had most of the German soldiers been. They had not wanted the war. He said it was right to make Germany pay reparations, but it was wrong to turn ordinary Germans into slaves. Yet such was the fate of many prisoners for years after the war, and not only in the East.
My dad had met the Russians on the Elbe and later in Czechoslovakia. He told of pulling back from captured villages, then seeing the Russians move in and immediately begin looting (or worse). My mother told me one of the first things my father said about the war was that the US quit too soon. He said the US was the only country with the atomic bomb, and should have told Stalin the war was over and the Russians should go back to their own borders. He mentioned how both Hitler and Stalin had attacked Poland and begun WWII as allies. It has always amazed me that Britain and France declared war only on Hitler. Were they afraid of Stalin?
Future historians may well regard the mid-20th Century as a time when civilization went backwards, instead of forwards. It was a return to barbarism.
By Charles Rice on Jun 3, 2009 at 9:44 pm
I’m not sure that only 56,000 German prisoners died in US captivity. The writer James Bacque in his book ‘Other Losses’ mentions around a million fatalities. I do think this is exaggerated, but i reckon the truth is somewhere in between. The French were particularly vicious in their treatment of German prisoners, and they had much less reason to hate them than the Russians. I should also mention that in WW1 German prisoners were also very badly treated by the Russians, so it wasn’t something you could just blame on the Communists. I guess it’s a Slavic thing – just look at the war in Bosnia in the 1990s.
By Mark LV on Aug 7, 2009 at 8:21 pm