Comments on: General George Patton Museum Reopens http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 18 May 2013 23:40:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Dr. G. F. Hofmann http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-824220 Dr. G. F. Hofmann Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:39:41 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-824220 Charles, years ago I had an opportunity to inspect the Christie at APG. Took numerious pictires. At that time there was a debate over was it an infantry tank or cavalry Combat Car? How did you confirm it was a CC? What is it doing at Fort Lee? If it is a CC, should it not be at Fort Benning? I guess it does not make a difference, since the debacled move and the questionable financial situation regarding the Armor-Cavalry museum. Charles, years ago I had an opportunity to inspect the Christie at APG. Took numerious pictires. At that time there was a debate over was it an infantry tank or cavalry Combat Car? How did you confirm it was a CC? What is it doing at Fort Lee? If it is a CC, should it not be at Fort Benning? I guess it does not make a difference, since the debacled move and the questionable financial situation regarding the Armor-Cavalry museum.

]]> By: Charles Lemons http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-823848 Charles Lemons Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:15:15 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-823848 Chris: The only reason the museum moved is because Congress decided to pass the BRAC act in 2004 - which mandated the move of the Armor School to Fort Benning GA. The collection is still funded by the Government - but certain elements in Congress decided that the Army should not be building "museums" when the money should be used elsewhere (go figure). THe existing building at Fort Knox was built by private funds in 1972 - and so we will have to wait until a private foundation builds another building at Benning. Chris: The only reason the museum moved is because Congress decided to pass the BRAC act in 2004 – which mandated the move of the Armor School to Fort Benning GA. The collection is still funded by the Government – but certain elements in Congress decided that the Army should not be building "museums" when the money should be used elsewhere (go figure). THe existing building at Fort Knox was built by private funds in 1972 – and so we will have to wait until a private foundation builds another building at Benning.

]]> By: chris leet http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-823834 chris leet Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:23:46 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-823834 What a waste of are tax money and time,moving most of the collection of armor vehicles and Tanks to fort bennings ,Ga. I here now they lost there funding from the Federal Gov.for there Museum.Iam 54 years old lived here in louisville,ky and have always enjoyed visiting Fort Knox Patton Museum since I was 8 years old.This is were the armored division started .It left here because the museum was to my understanding no longer to be funded by the Fed. Gov. now after at least 5 Decades here at Fort Knox it all moves to its new home (thats not even built for the next 5 to 7 years.) Guess what now they will have to depend on private funding!!!Mean while all of the Tanks are in storage where no one can see them. What a Big Cluster @#$#@! What a waste of are tax money and time,moving most of the collection of armor vehicles and Tanks to fort bennings ,Ga. I here now they lost there funding from the Federal Gov.for there Museum.Iam 54 years old lived here in louisville,ky and have always enjoyed visiting Fort Knox Patton Museum since I was 8 years old.This is were the armored division started .It left here because the museum was to my understanding no longer to be funded by the Fed. Gov. now after at least 5 Decades here at Fort Knox it all moves to its new home (thats not even built for the next 5 to 7 years.) Guess what now they will have to depend on private funding!!!Mean while all of the Tanks are in storage where no one can see them. What a Big Cluster @#$#@!

]]> By: Charles Lemons http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-822839 Charles Lemons Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:40:09 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-822839 The Armor Museum foundation is collecting funds - but don't hold your breath, it will take a while considering the finacial climate right now. The vehicles are presently be stored (and worked on) at a dedicated facility at Sand Hill. The Armor Museum foundation is collecting funds – but don't hold your breath, it will take a while considering the finacial climate right now. The vehicles are presently be stored (and worked on) at a dedicated facility at Sand Hill.

]]> By: Charles Lemons http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-822838 Charles Lemons Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:37:07 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-822838 Actually Dr. Hofmann, APG had one of the restored Christie Combat Cars (which you know was pretty much identical to the T3 Infantry Tanks) - as far as the Infantry Tanks - they were all scrapped in the late 1930s. The combat car was repainted to look like the T3 Infantry Tank and it is now resting in an enclosed yard at Fort Lee VA. The T4 Christie, on the other hand, is now at the National Armor and Cavalry Museum at Fort Benning. Charles Actually Dr. Hofmann, APG had one of the restored Christie Combat Cars (which you know was pretty much identical to the T3 Infantry Tanks) – as far as the Infantry Tanks – they were all scrapped in the late 1930s. The combat car was repainted to look like the T3 Infantry Tank and it is now resting in an enclosed yard at Fort Lee VA. The T4 Christie, on the other hand, is now at the National Armor and Cavalry Museum at Fort Benning.

Charles

]]> By: Michael Rebman http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-822825 Michael Rebman Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:27:54 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-822825 Any ETA when the new armor museum will begin construction? How is their fundraising going? Where is the armor being displayed from now until then? Any ETA when the new armor museum will begin construction? How is their fundraising going? Where is the armor being displayed from now until then?

]]> By: Dr. G. F. Hofmann http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-822814 Dr. G. F. Hofmann Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:24:31 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-822814 At one time there was at APG a restored T3 Christie infantry tank.This was one of three assigned to Fort Benning. Four Christie CC T1s had been shipped to Fort Knox by 1932. Where is the one remaining Christie T3 today? At one time there was at APG a restored T3 Christie infantry tank.This was one of three assigned to Fort Benning. Four Christie CC T1s had been shipped to Fort Knox by 1932. Where is the one remaining Christie T3 today?

]]> By: Charles Lemons http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-817854 Charles Lemons Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:23:30 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-817854 The Panther G, as well as the other PzKw III are down at Benning, along with the rest of the Armor Collection. The Collection is now being used for its original purpose - instructing armor soldiers. Hopefully the Armor Museum Foundation will collect enough funds to build a new museum building for the public. The Panther G, as well as the other PzKw III are down at Benning, along with the rest of the Armor Collection. The Collection is now being used for its original purpose – instructing armor soldiers. Hopefully the Armor Museum Foundation will collect enough funds to build a new museum building for the public.

]]> By: Snake36Bravo http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-817797 Snake36Bravo Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:59:43 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-817797 Hello Mr. Lemons, What happened to the Panther Ausf G outside with missing roadwheels, tracks and other elements?My understanding is the Armor School at Benning only wanted the running condition prototype Panther with late war turret. There was also a Mark III outside. I visited PMA as I knew it right after coming off active duty. In my excitement I jumped the rope to take a picture of the rear deck and escape/loading hatch of the Panther. While it's a shame that the majority of the captured armor of WW2 is gone as a curator and military historian myself I believe in your mission and dedication to both museums. My grandfather served in the 10th Panzer Division during WW2 so my connection to the armor comes from a different perspective. When I went through Benning for initial training and Airborne school there were also a large number of AFVs outside exposed to the elements. I am incredibly happy to hear the motorpool at Sand Hill is housing the armor. Patton was a true leader so I get the new mission of the museum at Knox. His only contribution was not armor alone. There are also no museums to Heinz Guderian though he did more to birth the concept of armored warfare. Hello Mr. Lemons,

What happened to the Panther Ausf G outside with missing roadwheels, tracks and other elements?My understanding is the Armor School at Benning only wanted the running condition prototype Panther with late war turret. There was also a Mark III outside.

I visited PMA as I knew it right after coming off active duty. In my excitement I jumped the rope to take a picture of the rear deck and escape/loading hatch of the Panther. While it's a shame that the majority of the captured armor of WW2 is gone as a curator and military historian myself I believe in your mission and dedication to both museums.

My grandfather served in the 10th Panzer Division during WW2 so my connection to the armor comes from a different perspective. When I went through Benning for initial training and Airborne school there were also a large number of AFVs outside exposed to the elements. I am incredibly happy to hear the motorpool at Sand Hill is housing the armor.

Patton was a true leader so I get the new mission of the museum at Knox. His only contribution was not armor alone. There are also no museums to Heinz Guderian though he did more to birth the concept of armored warfare.

]]> By: Charles Lemons http://www.historynet.com/general-george-patton-museum-reopens.htm#comment-815612 Charles Lemons Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:07:37 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13683497#comment-815612 Not all of them are moving to Fort Lee. A number of the vehicles have been transferred to the National Armor and Cavalry Museum (formerly known as the Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armor) at Fort Benning. So far the Mark VIII Heavy Tank, a PzKw V Ausf A, a T34/76, an M67 Flame tank, a T62, the T4 Christie, and an M3 Grant have been shipped to Benning. The museum also has possession of the PzKw II, Marder II, and Tiger I - which had been loaned to the Germans some years back Not all of them are moving to Fort Lee. A number of the vehicles have been transferred to the National Armor and Cavalry Museum (formerly known as the Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armor) at Fort Benning. So far the Mark VIII Heavy Tank, a PzKw V Ausf A, a T34/76, an M67 Flame tank, a T62, the T4 Christie, and an M3 Grant have been shipped to Benning. The museum also has possession of the PzKw II, Marder II, and Tiger I – which had been loaned to the Germans some years back

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