Comments on: Dressed to Kill: The Guns Used by the Daltons at Coffeyville http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Wed, 22 May 2013 15:23:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Loren Johnston Jr http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-823099 Loren Johnston Jr Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:46:33 +0000 #comment-823099 jim? jim who? jim? jim who?

]]> By: Loren Johnston Jr http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-823098 Loren Johnston Jr Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:41:43 +0000 #comment-823098 My father Loren Edward Johnston Sr. always told us stories about a gun from the Dalton Gang being in the family possession in a vault in Texas. He was born in Independence , Kansas in 1922. He said a family member picked up the pistol from the street after a bank robbery. Before his death he had his sister or another relative send it to him in El Centro, Ca. He died. My mother kept it. she died and then my step sister Rosa kept it. I just found out many years later that when she died my sister Rosa recieved a visit from another of my father's family member from Texas stating he wanted the gun to donate it to a museum. I was never informed and I would never have given up possession of that gun. I believe it was rightfully mine. How do I go about tracking it down and reclaiming it? Thank you. Loren Edward Johnston Jr. My father Loren Edward Johnston Sr. always told us stories about a gun from the Dalton Gang being in the family possession in a vault in Texas. He was born in Independence , Kansas in 1922. He said a family member picked up the pistol from the street after a bank robbery. Before his death he had his sister or another relative send it to him in El Centro, Ca. He died. My mother kept it. she died and then my step sister Rosa kept it. I just found out many years later that when she died my sister Rosa recieved a visit from another of my father's family member from Texas stating he wanted the gun to donate it to a museum. I was never informed and I would never have given up possession of that gun. I believe it was rightfully mine. How do I go about tracking it down and reclaiming it? Thank you.
Loren Edward Johnston Jr.

]]> By: Colts and the Dalton Gang http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-821927 Colts and the Dalton Gang Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:49:35 +0000 #comment-821927 [...] 318 times I find it bizarre that Simmons Hardware ordered ten IDENTICAL Colts like the one sold here. But apparently that's what happened and Bob Dalton bought them all and all but one guy died wearing them. I know they were a huge distributor but ten with no variation seems strange. Here's another article, Primer, about there being ten of these. Dressed to Kill: The Guns Used by the Daltons at Coffeyville [...] [...] 318 times I find it bizarre that Simmons Hardware ordered ten IDENTICAL Colts like the one sold here. But apparently that's what happened and Bob Dalton bought them all and all but one guy died wearing them. I know they were a huge distributor but ten with no variation seems strange. Here's another article, Primer, about there being ten of these. Dressed to Kill: The Guns Used by the Daltons at Coffeyville [...]

]]> By: SAUL http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-791818 SAUL Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:28:14 +0000 #comment-791818 TENGO UN REVOLVER COLT´S 44 CON ESTA FECHA 19 DE SEP 1871 PT,F.A.C.O HART FOBD CT. U.S.A Y QUISIERA SEVER MAS D ELLA Y QUE VALOR $ TIENE GACIAS Approximate translation from Yahoo Babelfish: I HAVE A REVOLVER COLT´S 44 WITH THIS DATE 19 OF SEP 1871 PT, F.A.C.O HART FOBD CT. U.S.A. WOULD WANT SEVER MAS D SHE AND WHO VALUE $ HAS GACIAS TENGO UN REVOLVER COLT´S 44 CON ESTA FECHA 19 DE SEP 1871 PT,F.A.C.O HART FOBD CT. U.S.A Y QUISIERA SEVER MAS D ELLA Y QUE VALOR $ TIENE GACIAS

Approximate translation from Yahoo Babelfish:
I HAVE A REVOLVER COLT´S 44 WITH THIS DATE 19 OF SEP 1871 PT, F.A.C.O HART FOBD CT. U.S.A. WOULD WANT SEVER MAS D SHE AND WHO VALUE $ HAS GACIAS

]]> By: Dalton Hadwen http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-531925 Dalton Hadwen Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:55:24 +0000 #comment-531925 As unbelievable as this may be, I may know where to find one of these colts. Perhaps belonging to Grat. My great-great Grandmother's name was Hannah Dalton, and despite what records you might find online, Hannah Dalton didn't die in Oklahoma in 1879 - in fact, Bill Dalton was quoted to have claimed that all 10 brothers and 5 sisters, minus Frank, had been alive "before yesterday" (as this was taken during an interview the day after the raid in 1892) Hannah was one of the five sisters, proving her to be alive after her supposed "death-date". She rarely ever spoke of her family, but her daughter-in-law and her son, my great grandmother, and grandfather, respectively, passed on the legend of her being sister to the infamous Dalton Brothers. My grandfather and his brothers all recall seeing a pearl-handled blued colt and another revolver with a busted handle being put in the wall of their childhood home to keep them out of reach of the children and sight of visitors. That house still stands, in Brighton, Ontario, though no longer is property to my family. The guns have not been recovered yet, though I have taken up the cause of attempting to recover them, as I believe they belong to the family. Hannah Dalton came to settle in Canada after the events in Kansas. She came North with her aunt to avoid the scorn and reputation her family had made for themselves. As unbelievable as this may be, I may know where to find one of these colts. Perhaps belonging to Grat.

My great-great Grandmother's name was Hannah Dalton, and despite what records you might find online, Hannah Dalton didn't die in Oklahoma in 1879 – in fact, Bill Dalton was quoted to have claimed that all 10 brothers and 5 sisters, minus Frank, had been alive "before yesterday" (as this was taken during an interview the day after the raid in 1892) Hannah was one of the five sisters, proving her to be alive after her supposed "death-date".

She rarely ever spoke of her family, but her daughter-in-law and her son, my great grandmother, and grandfather, respectively, passed on the legend of her being sister to the infamous Dalton Brothers.

My grandfather and his brothers all recall seeing a pearl-handled blued colt and another revolver with a busted handle being put in the wall of their childhood home to keep them out of reach of the children and sight of visitors.

That house still stands, in Brighton, Ontario, though no longer is property to my family. The guns have not been recovered yet, though I have taken up the cause of attempting to recover them, as I believe they belong to the family.

Hannah Dalton came to settle in Canada after the events in Kansas. She came North with her aunt to avoid the scorn and reputation her family had made for themselves.

]]> By: sunger http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-526576 sunger Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:11:49 +0000 #comment-526576 I enjoyed reading the story, but I'm having some difficulty believing that a bunch of guys who were trying to get into town to rob the bank would be so flashy. Guns then were like cell phones now, everyone had them, and everyone noticed what someone else was carrying. Why would they want to draw attention to themselves like that? I understand confidence, but I don't understand dumb. They knew the chanches of a successful robbery depended on getting in and out quietly, quickly, and un-noticed. I doubt they took flashy guns to rob that bank. They were not dumb. I enjoyed reading the story, but I'm having some difficulty believing that a bunch of guys who were trying to get into town to rob the bank would be so flashy. Guns then were like cell phones now, everyone had them, and everyone noticed what someone else was carrying. Why would they want to draw attention to themselves like that? I understand confidence, but I don't understand dumb. They knew the chanches of a successful robbery depended on getting in and out quietly, quickly, and un-noticed.
I doubt they took flashy guns to rob that bank. They were not dumb.

]]> By: jerry steinke http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-372964 jerry steinke Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:24:27 +0000 #comment-372964 hello, several years ago, when i was a kid, my father came across a colt revolver with the name engraved on the back strap of the gun. it was Robert P.Dalton. i do remember that dad called the serial numbers to colt, and found out that it was one of a pair of colts given to bob dalton when he became a marshal in kansas. about six months later a man from i think the kansas museum offered my father a good price for the gun, and told him that the mate to the gun was allready in the museum. my father kept the gun and didn't sell. after several years, i kind of forgot about the gun, that my father said he would never sell. about ten years ago, my father died and no on ever really found the gun, im not sure if he sold it thru the years, or someone stole it from h im, or maybe he left it somewhere in a sasfe deposite box. does anyone have any info on where this second gun may have ended up. thanks in advance for your help \jerry steinke in tennessee hello, several years ago, when i was a kid, my father came across a colt revolver with the name engraved on the back strap of the gun. it was Robert P.Dalton. i do remember that dad called the serial numbers to colt, and found out that it was one of a pair of colts given to bob dalton when he became a marshal in kansas. about six months later a man from i think the kansas museum offered my father a good price for the gun, and told him that the mate to the gun was allready in the museum. my father kept the gun and didn't sell. after several years, i kind of forgot about the gun, that my father said he would never sell. about ten years ago, my father died and no on ever really found the gun, im not sure if he sold it thru the years, or someone stole it from h im, or maybe he left it somewhere in a sasfe deposite box. does anyone have any info on where this second gun may have ended up. thanks in advance for your help
\jerry steinke in tennessee

]]> By: daniel sanders http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-341049 daniel sanders Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:01:08 +0000 #comment-341049 yes i have info on the brass buckle yes i have info on the brass buckle

]]> By: margaret stinson http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-190327 margaret stinson Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:58:11 +0000 #comment-190327 I have a solid brass belt buckle that has the dalton gang engraved into the brass. it has a mint # and a patent# does anyone have any information on this item? I have a solid brass belt buckle that has the dalton gang engraved into the brass. it has a mint # and a patent# does anyone have any information on this item?

]]> By: Albert gonzales http://www.historynet.com/dressed-to-kill-the-guns-used-by-the-daltons-at-coffeyville.htm#comment-178274 Albert gonzales Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:20:08 +0000 #comment-178274 Well,i did not know that a gun can go a long ways,good info.,and its good reading ,i enjoy it,and any thing that have to do with old west,i have a some info. bout Emmett,no sorry, its not a gun,when Emmett came to L.A. he made a movie of his life Dalton Rides again,and like W.Earp,he show them how to make Western movies,movie star like Tom Hart and other cowboys stars that were making a name for them selfs in Western movies,Emmett did good when he got out of prison and went to Hollywood and he live a good life there,you can say he was a Hollywood outlaw star,i mean,just think bout it,he attempt in robbery two Banks at one time in his home town to top that off,he was sentenced to life,but got pardoned and hook up was Chuck Martin to write his memoirs and make a movie bout him self and to pass away at 65 some 70 some thing yrs a go,what gunman do you know? besides the Sun dance kid that pass away in 1955 in prison,and he died in prison,Emmet Dalton live a good life and to live to tell about it,well a gun does go a long ways after all.Albert from Dallas,Texas Well,i did not know that a gun can go a long ways,good info.,and its good reading ,i enjoy it,and any thing that have to do with old west,i have a some info. bout Emmett,no sorry, its not a gun,when Emmett came to L.A. he made a movie of his life Dalton Rides again,and like W.Earp,he show them how to make Western movies,movie star like Tom Hart and other cowboys stars that were making a name for them selfs in Western movies,Emmett did good when he got out of prison and went to Hollywood and he live a good life there,you can say he was a Hollywood outlaw star,i mean,just think bout it,he attempt in robbery two Banks at one time in his home town to top that off,he was sentenced to life,but got pardoned and hook up was Chuck Martin to write his memoirs and make a movie bout him self and to pass away at 65 some 70 some thing yrs a go,what gunman do you know? besides the Sun dance kid that pass away in 1955 in prison,and he died in prison,Emmet Dalton live a good life and to live to tell about it,well a gun does go a long ways after all.Albert from Dallas,Texas

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