Comments on: Did Russia Really Go It Alone? How Lend-Lease Helped the Soviets Defeat the Germans http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:15:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mike http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-787311 Mike Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:31:13 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-787311 Without US assistance ALL of Europe was kaput. Without US assistance ALL of Europe was kaput.

]]> By: Could the Allies defeat Germany only with air power? - Page 3 http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-782076 Could the Allies defeat Germany only with air power? - Page 3 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 03:24:22 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-782076 [...] in service, with more than 16 percent of those imported, and more than half of those British. Did Russia Really Go It Alone? How Lend-Lease Helped the Soviets Defeat the Germans This subject is very complex. For every advantage one side has, the other has others. And I'm also [...] [...] in service, with more than 16 percent of those imported, and more than half of those British. Did Russia Really Go It Alone? How Lend-Lease Helped the Soviets Defeat the Germans This subject is very complex. For every advantage one side has, the other has others. And I'm also [...]

]]> By: Marcelo Jenisch http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-779926 Marcelo Jenisch Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:22:47 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-779926 WWII was won by the joint Allied effort. The USSR was more important in the ground war against most European Axis; the remaining Allies in the air and on the sea; and figthing Japan (let's not forget China); as well as supplying the Soviets with vital assistance as show here. The 'my dick is bigger than yours' business is not only nonsense, but also a big disrespect to all people who perished in that war. Period. WWII was won by the joint Allied effort. The USSR was more important in the ground war against most European Axis; the remaining Allies in the air and on the sea; and figthing Japan (let's not forget China); as well as supplying the Soviets with vital assistance as show here. The 'my dick is bigger than yours' business is not only nonsense, but also a big disrespect to all people who perished in that war. Period.

]]> By: The myths of WWII (Eastern Europe) - Page 6 http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-771861 The myths of WWII (Eastern Europe) - Page 6 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:12:23 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-771861 [...] proportion of tanks available as reinforcements at this critical point in the fighting" Did Russia Really Go It Alone? How Lend-Lease Helped the Soviets Defeat the Germans, Page 2 Reply With [...] [...] proportion of tanks available as reinforcements at this critical point in the fighting" Did Russia Really Go It Alone? How Lend-Lease Helped the Soviets Defeat the Germans, Page 2 Reply With [...]

]]> By: Phillip http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-615819 Phillip Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:28:48 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-615819 Actually it was the Soviet Union, not Russia. Also 88% may be a little high. I have seen statistics which indicate that the figure is 70%, not 88%. Either way, it's historic fact that The Soviet Union's Red Army killed more Germans than all other Allies combined. The Soviet Union also suffered more casualties than everyone else combined. Just google it. And if someone on your winning team scores 70 or more points out of 100, then who won the game? The Soviets deserve at least MVP, and most of the time we Americans doesn't even mention the UUSR and are always acting like we won the war single-handedly, and, my friends, it just ain't so. This of course doesn't lessen individual casualties of other countries such as someone's great uncle, or my own uncle, who died as a result of Nazi injuries. But as a former simple U.S. soldier from the 1960's and 70's war, I hate to see lies in reporting. even more I hate war. period. May God grant us peace, so that the common soldier doesn't have to die for politicians. Actually it was the Soviet Union, not Russia. Also 88% may be a little high. I have seen statistics which indicate that the figure is 70%, not 88%. Either way, it's historic fact that The Soviet Union's Red Army killed more Germans than all other Allies combined. The Soviet Union also suffered more casualties than everyone else combined. Just google it.

And if someone on your winning team scores 70 or more points out of 100, then who won the game? The Soviets deserve at least MVP, and most of the time we Americans doesn't even mention the UUSR and are always acting like we won the war single-handedly, and, my friends, it just ain't so.

This of course doesn't lessen individual casualties of other countries such as someone's great uncle, or my own uncle, who died as a result of Nazi injuries.

But as a former simple U.S. soldier from the 1960's and 70's war, I hate to see lies in reporting. even more I hate war. period.

May God grant us peace, so that the common soldier doesn't have to die for politicians.

]]> By: s gosling http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-492941 s gosling Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:46:58 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-492941 Does not affect the fact that Russia won the war. 88% of German casualties inflicted by Russians! Does not affect the fact that Russia won the war. 88% of German casualties inflicted by Russians!

]]> By: What if Britain and Germany sign peace agreement - Page 2 - World War II Forums http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-311545 What if Britain and Germany sign peace agreement - Page 2 - World War II Forums Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:04:56 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-311545 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Peter http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-278924 Peter Tue, 18 May 2010 15:15:44 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-278924 Jack turso: the greatest enemy the Germans faced was mud, not snow. It was the mud of October and November slowed the Germans down. When the mud froze solid in late November early December their advance picked up speed again. In early May the Russian ground was still muddy from the previous winters snow melt. Between that and having to bale the Italians out in Greece there was no way that Germany could have invaded in early May. The delay taking Kiev rather than move on Moscow was far more significant although no sane German general could really have left that many Russians on their flank. The claim that Russia was saved by winter diminishes the way the Russians defended Moscow. Zhukov fought a very, very clever defence of the city and the Russians halted the Germans with blood. The foul winter of 1941 hurt the Russians as much as the Germans.... the Russians aren't snow proof. If German tanks couldn't move neither could Russian ones. Getting back on topic at the Battle of Prokhorovka the only significant quanity of heavy tanks available to the Soviets were 31 Lend lease Churchills. The way some Russians dismiss the aid they recieved from Britain is highly offensive. I had a great uncle die on a petrol tanker heading to Archangel... we'll never know if he burnt or froze/drowned. Likewise my Grandfather in North Africa would have had an easier war if the tanks and fighters we sent to Russia had been available to his division instead. Jack turso: the greatest enemy the Germans faced was mud, not snow. It was the mud of October and November slowed the Germans down. When the mud froze solid in late November early December their advance picked up speed again. In early May the Russian ground was still muddy from the previous winters snow melt. Between that and having to bale the Italians out in Greece there was no way that Germany could have invaded in early May. The delay taking Kiev rather than move on Moscow was far more significant although no sane German general could really have left that many Russians on their flank.

The claim that Russia was saved by winter diminishes the way the Russians defended Moscow. Zhukov fought a very, very clever defence of the city and the Russians halted the Germans with blood. The foul winter of 1941 hurt the Russians as much as the Germans…. the Russians aren't snow proof. If German tanks couldn't move neither could Russian ones.

Getting back on topic at the Battle of Prokhorovka the only significant quanity of heavy tanks available to the Soviets were 31 Lend lease Churchills. The way some Russians dismiss the aid they recieved from Britain is highly offensive. I had a great uncle die on a petrol tanker heading to Archangel… we'll never know if he burnt or froze/drowned. Likewise my Grandfather in North Africa would have had an easier war if the tanks and fighters we sent to Russia had been available to his division instead.

]]> By: jack turso http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-238903 jack turso Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:52:45 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-238903 If not for our convoys to archangel and murmansk ,and loss of life to brit and usa merchant seamen they were toast..Germany Hitler wanted only short range bombers.the russians moved their factories further north to be out of range of the twin engine bombers..Not to mention the fact that stalian insisted on an invasion of north africia and italy to take the strain off the eastern front,,Worst campaign ever and needless loss of lives. Patton wanted to go through the Balkins..the 5th army suffered much needless loss of lives,,Grant you russia had millions of soldiers and had the germans not sacked and raped the civilians who knows? Last but not least,russia had three great generals.JANUARY,FEBRUARY AND MARCH.WORST WINTER IN 100 YRS.WHAT IF GERMANY INVADED IN MAY INSTEAD OF JUNE? If not for our convoys to archangel and murmansk ,and loss of life to brit and usa merchant seamen they were toast..Germany Hitler wanted only short range bombers.the russians moved their factories further north to be out of range of the twin engine bombers..Not to mention the fact that stalian insisted on an invasion of north africia and italy to take the strain off the eastern front,,Worst campaign ever and needless loss of lives.
Patton wanted to go through the Balkins..the 5th army suffered much needless loss of lives,,Grant you russia had millions of soldiers and had the germans not sacked and raped the civilians who knows? Last but not least,russia had three great generals.JANUARY,FEBRUARY AND MARCH.WORST WINTER IN 100 YRS.WHAT IF GERMANY INVADED IN MAY INSTEAD OF JUNE?

]]> By: paul penrod http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm#comment-119145 paul penrod Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:47:25 +0000 http://www.historynet.com/?p=13681080#comment-119145 Even if the USSR hadn't received a single tank or plane from the west they still wouldn't been able to wage a successful offensive war without US/UK assistance. Soviet soldiers were fed (they liked our SPAM) and clothed, were equipped with western radio and telephone equipment, medical supplies, railroad cars and locos (built for the Russian gauge) and especially hordes of trucks to sustain their later offensives. This allowed the Soviets to concentrate their production on tanks, guns and planes. Even if the USSR hadn't received a single tank or plane from the west they still wouldn't been able to wage a successful offensive war without US/UK assistance. Soviet soldiers were fed (they liked our SPAM) and clothed, were equipped with western radio and telephone equipment, medical supplies, railroad cars and locos (built for the Russian gauge) and especially hordes of trucks to sustain their later offensives. This allowed the Soviets to concentrate their production on tanks, guns and planes.

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