Comments on: Battle of the Boyne: King William III's Victory in Ireland http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 25 May 2013 03:21:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: mossman http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-1101618 mossman Fri, 10 May 2013 09:58:29 +0000 #comment-1101618 hindsight is of course fantastic, although I would say looking back at the development of Britain since the battle of the boyne, I think the positives ( for all ) far outweigh the negatives. Of course William III had an agenda, he wouldn't have been the successful statesman he was otherwise, he wasn't winging it, he was manipulating and shaping the future. the point i'm making is you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, but ultimately, this country has come on leaps and bounds since. hindsight is of course fantastic, although I would say looking back at the development of Britain since the battle of the boyne, I think the positives ( for all ) far outweigh the negatives. Of course William III had an agenda, he wouldn't have been the successful statesman he was otherwise, he wasn't winging it, he was manipulating and shaping the future. the point i'm making is you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, but ultimately, this country has come on leaps and bounds since.

]]> By: shezza http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-824283 shezza Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:21:47 +0000 #comment-824283 got to love history :) got to love history :)

]]> By: Nelson Patterson http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-808216 Nelson Patterson Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:10:57 +0000 #comment-808216 I am searching for information on Capt. Henry Hope who was in William 111's army at the Battle of the Boyne. Could you please tell me if you have any information on Capt. Hope. I am searching for information on Capt. Henry Hope who was in William 111's army at the Battle of the Boyne. Could you please tell me if you have any information on Capt. Hope.

]]> By: Dice Ludden http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-789864 Dice Ludden Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:13:29 +0000 #comment-789864 I am searching for the full name of a Major Montgomery under William's command who died at the Battle of Borne-water. Can you help me? I am searching for the full name of a Major Montgomery under William's command who died at the Battle of Borne-water.

Can you help me?

]]> By: lebe http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-787892 lebe Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:46:44 +0000 #comment-787892 it amazes me how people cant just read up on these things without being insulting or just plain arrogant, you cant admit wether your wrong and half of this is opinion based. it amazes me how people cant just read up on these things without being insulting or just plain arrogant, you cant admit wether your wrong and half of this is opinion based.

]]> By: chuckee57 http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-786998 chuckee57 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:01:46 +0000 #comment-786998 i think that king william lived a bizzy life of his own chuesing and how. i think that king william lived a bizzy life of his own chuesing and how.

]]> By: Jacobite Ireland http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-784243 Jacobite Ireland Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:20:43 +0000 #comment-784243 ohhhhh how hindsight does bend the few of history, the Boyne would not cause Jacobite Ireland to go quietly into the night. A untrained force (with 3 regiments that were left in England, rapparees and some regiments being disbanded by Tyroconnell due to lack of resources) vs a European veteran army has the Williamite cause tied up for ‘three years of war in Ireland cost in excess of six million pounds'. Jacobite Ireland would further to enlist for the armies of France and Spain. William came to England of the fear of a Catholic English monarch who looked to copy that of his cousin Louis "the sun king". If England entered the war on the side of the France, William would have to face the largest land power (France) and the largest naval power (England). The question also come to mind what of the Irish Protestant Jacobites? This is just a popular history, i would at the revival of Jacobite studies and look to a three kingdom and European approach to the conflict. ohhhhh how hindsight does bend the few of history, the Boyne would not cause Jacobite Ireland to go quietly into the night. A untrained force (with 3 regiments that were left in England, rapparees and some regiments being disbanded by Tyroconnell due to lack of resources) vs a European veteran army has the Williamite cause tied up for ‘three years of war in Ireland cost in excess of six million pounds'. Jacobite Ireland would further to enlist for the armies of France and Spain. William came to England of the fear of a Catholic English monarch who looked to copy that of his cousin Louis "the sun king". If England entered the war on the side of the France, William would have to face the largest land power (France) and the largest naval power (England). The question also come to mind what of the Irish Protestant Jacobites? This is just a popular history, i would at the revival of Jacobite studies and look to a three kingdom and European approach to the conflict.

]]> By: ICM http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-582720 ICM Thu, 02 Jun 2011 03:51:57 +0000 #comment-582720 "you Orangemen are as stupid and pigheaded as you are abusive and destructive." Either this person is stupid or he is pretending to be stupid! In the same sentence he calls Orangemen "stupid and pigheaded" and "abusive!" As the good book says, "First take out the mote that is in your own eye." "you Orangemen are as stupid and pigheaded as you are abusive and destructive."

Either this person is stupid or he is pretending to be stupid! In the same sentence he calls Orangemen "stupid and pigheaded" and "abusive!" As the good book says, "First take out the mote that is in your own eye."

]]> By: SPARTACUS http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-322022 SPARTACUS Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:55:15 +0000 #comment-322022 YOU ARE TWITS, DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT KING WILLIAM WAS SUPPORTED BY THE POPE, AS THEY WERE BOTH AGAINST THE FRENCH KING LOUIS XIV WHO WANTED TO CONTROL MOST OF EUROPE AND IRELAND, READ YOUR HISTORY, AND GROW UP. YOU ARE TWITS, DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT KING WILLIAM WAS SUPPORTED BY THE POPE, AS THEY WERE BOTH AGAINST THE FRENCH KING LOUIS XIV WHO WANTED TO CONTROL MOST OF EUROPE AND IRELAND, READ YOUR HISTORY, AND GROW UP.

]]> By: Marc with a C http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-the-boyne-king-william-iiis-victory-in-ireland.htm#comment-66068 Marc with a C Wed, 27 May 2009 03:50:23 +0000 #comment-66068 That's a laugh. You can't apply 21st century conceptions of democracy and freedom to the 17th century! Basically, James represented French-style absolutist monarchy and the divine right of kings. William represented a constitutional monarchy, tempered by and ruling in accordance with the rules of a democratically elected parliament. If you want to know how that played out, compare England's social and political developments in the 18th century to France's, especially circa 1789. That's a laugh.

You can't apply 21st century conceptions of democracy and freedom to the 17th century!

Basically, James represented French-style absolutist monarchy and the divine right of kings.

William represented a constitutional monarchy, tempered by and ruling in accordance with the rules of a democratically elected parliament.

If you want to know how that played out, compare England's social and political developments in the 18th century to France's, especially circa 1789.

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