Comments on: Battle of Gettysburg: Fury at Bliss Farm http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sun, 26 May 2013 05:23:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Albert Bennett http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm#comment-861510 Albert Bennett Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:10:00 +0000 #comment-861510 Never said that the 1st DE was brave, well Harris was the problem. Actually I am a 12thNJ fan. In Reading Harry Pfanz you will see he said that the Bliss Barn was the anchor of the Skirmish line, and the reason all were sent out was to take out the location for Confederate sharp shooters, (though none hit Postles.) Just think of all the guys on LRT were hit by \Sharp shooters\. and the fear at the Bliss Barn, was to have lets say Hancock, or Webb taken down by this nest that was cleared, what if Hancock got killed??? He was the one who gave the order to clear them out.. I respect Archer, One of the best guides and contributers to the Gettysburg Daily, Never said rubbish... and my only point was the question of Postles... Never said braver than anyone else. I feel all were brave. Some just had better press, I also like Ellis and his Orange Blossoms. I'll not reply to anymore attacks from you. Have a nice day. . Never said that the 1st DE was brave, well Harris was the problem. Actually I am a 12thNJ fan. In Reading Harry Pfanz you will see he said that the Bliss Barn was the anchor of the Skirmish line, and the reason all were sent out was to take out the location for Confederate sharp shooters, (though none hit Postles.) Just think of all the guys on LRT were hit by \Sharp shooters\. and the fear at the Bliss Barn, was to have lets say Hancock, or Webb taken down by this nest that was cleared, what if Hancock got killed??? He was the one who gave the order to clear them out.. I respect Archer, One of the best guides and contributers to the Gettysburg Daily, Never said rubbish… and my only point was the question of Postles… Never said braver than anyone else. I feel all were brave. Some just had better press, I also like Ellis and his Orange Blossoms. I'll not reply to anymore attacks from you. Have a nice day. .

]]> By: Dave Conrad http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm#comment-860732 Dave Conrad Sun, 03 Feb 2013 01:13:32 +0000 #comment-860732 Actually, Mr. Bennett, I didn't only attack the messenger, although that I did -- and in your first response you failed to correct the blatant misspelling . . . but I digress, and spelling is a small matter after all. Let's deal with the history, for I also attacked the message. While I grant that Postles was a brave, brave man (I shudder at the thought of myself doing what he did -- I simply couldn't do it; he well deserved the MOH), he was not the \hero of that day\ that you proclaim. Care to make the case that Postles and the 1st DE were the heroes of July 2? In fact, you kind of prove my point by bringing up the 1st Minnesota -- the list of Day 2 heroes, from the 20th Maine and 140th New York to the 1st Minnesota. If you can explain how the skirmishing at the Bliss Farm altered the course of the battle and exceeded the importance of the actions of the 20th and 140th on Little Round Top -- or, say, De Trobriand near the Wheatfield -- I'm all ears. P.S. In your initial post, you imply that this article is rubbish because it doesn't mention Postles. Is Harry Pfanz's treatment of Day 2 also rubbish because it fails to mention Postles? P.P.S What is your rubric for determining levels of bravery? How and why is the 1st MN braver than the 20th ME, than the 140th NY? Is it a matter of casualties? Is it a matter of effect on the outcome of the battle? If it is a matter of casualties or a matter of effect on the outcome of the battle, then how can you possibly place the 1st DE above the 20th ME or 140th NY or 1st MN? Actually, Mr. Bennett, I didn't only attack the messenger, although that I did — and in your first response you failed to correct the blatant misspelling . . . but I digress, and spelling is a small matter after all. Let's deal with the history, for I also attacked the message. While I grant that Postles was a brave, brave man (I shudder at the thought of myself doing what he did — I simply couldn't do it; he well deserved the MOH), he was not the \hero of that day\ that you proclaim. Care to make the case that Postles and the 1st DE were the heroes of July 2?

In fact, you kind of prove my point by bringing up the 1st Minnesota — the list of Day 2 heroes, from the 20th Maine and 140th New York to the 1st Minnesota. If you can explain how the skirmishing at the Bliss Farm altered the course of the battle and exceeded the importance of the actions of the 20th and 140th on Little Round Top — or, say, De Trobriand near the Wheatfield — I'm all ears.

P.S. In your initial post, you imply that this article is rubbish because it doesn't mention Postles. Is Harry Pfanz's treatment of Day 2 also rubbish because it fails to mention Postles?

P.P.S What is your rubric for determining levels of bravery? How and why is the 1st MN braver than the 20th ME, than the 140th NY? Is it a matter of casualties? Is it a matter of effect on the outcome of the battle? If it is a matter of casualties or a matter of effect on the outcome of the battle, then how can you possibly place the 1st DE above the 20th ME or 140th NY or 1st MN?

]]> By: Albert Bennett http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm#comment-858775 Albert Bennett Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:08:17 +0000 #comment-858775 Wow...you must be really smart ...you know, people who make fun at spelling that is obviously a mistake, makes you just like the people who blog and have nothing to say but attack the messenger. If you look back this article left Postles out, that was the issue... If you are such a great historian on the battle how come you left out the bravest federal unit the 1st Minnesota..?. Keep up the sarcasm, I am sure it fits who you are. Wow…you must be really smart …you know, people who make fun at spelling that is obviously a mistake, makes you just like the people who blog and have nothing to say but attack the messenger. If you look back this article left Postles out, that was the issue… If you are such a great historian on the battle how come you left out the bravest federal unit the 1st Minnesota..?. Keep up the sarcasm, I am sure it fits who you are.

]]> By: Dave Conrad http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm#comment-858740 Dave Conrad Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:34:01 +0000 #comment-858740 I thought it was pretty clear that I was sarcastically making fun of your spelling . . . but in retrospect, I was wrong to assume that someone who can't spell would understand that. It also seems you're someone who views history emotionally rather than dispassionately. You're having a great deal of trouble separating your (understandable) feelings about your ancestor from the history of what actually happened. I well know who James Parke Postles is and well respect his courage under fire. However, that does not make him "the real hero of that day." July 2 featured brave acts -- acts that affected the course of the battle -- by men like Joshua Chamberlain, Strong Vincent, and Patrick O'Rorke, to say nothing of Winfield Scott Hancock and even George Meade. Postles was brave -- there is no doubt about that -- but did the skirmishing at the Bliss Barn have any effect on the battle's outcome? I thought it was pretty clear that I was sarcastically making fun of your spelling . . . but in retrospect, I was wrong to assume that someone who can't spell would understand that.

It also seems you're someone who views history emotionally rather than dispassionately. You're having a great deal of trouble separating your (understandable) feelings about your ancestor from the history of what actually happened. I well know who James Parke Postles is and well respect his courage under fire. However, that does not make him "the real hero of that day." July 2 featured brave acts — acts that affected the course of the battle — by men like Joshua Chamberlain, Strong Vincent, and Patrick O'Rorke, to say nothing of Winfield Scott Hancock and even George Meade. Postles was brave — there is no doubt about that — but did the skirmishing at the Bliss Barn have any effect on the battle's outcome?

]]> By: Bennett http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm#comment-818932 Bennett Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:22:27 +0000 #comment-818932 Who are you to make fun of a man who risked his life to bring a message to troops, and won the Metal of honor? Our hero's would never be made light of. Look up James Parke Postles, and realize how dumb your comment is. Who are you to make fun of a man who risked his life to bring a message to troops, and won the Metal of honor? Our hero's would never be made light of. Look up James Parke Postles, and realize how dumb your comment is.

]]> By: Dave Conrad http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm#comment-818927 Dave Conrad Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:23:10 +0000 #comment-818927 What's the "metal of honer"? Should I trust your comment if you can't even spell the award your ancestor won? What's the "metal of honer"? Should I trust your comment if you can't even spell the award your ancestor won?

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]]> By: Albert Bennett http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-gettysburg-fury-at-bliss-farm.htm#comment-794790 Albert Bennett Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:14:47 +0000 #comment-794790 I read this article with much interest as I believed it would tell the story of the real hero of that day. James Parke Postles. Who took the message to the bliss barn being shot at the whole time. He was seen by all on that part of the battlefield, BOTH SIDES! He received a CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR, for this deed... He brought the message to hold or burn the barn. Go and Google him. I am in the 12th NJ, so along with that interest and that Postles was a direct ancestor of mine. How could you miss a Metal of honor winner?????? the captured Miss boys said they shot at him the whole time and that he was one brave Galloper. Should I trust your article if you missed this important part of the event...Thanks for honoring a metal of honer recipient. I read this article with much interest as I believed it would tell the story of the real hero of that day. James Parke Postles. Who took the message to the bliss barn being shot at the whole time. He was seen by all on that part of the battlefield, BOTH SIDES! He received a CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR, for this deed… He brought the message to hold or burn the barn. Go and Google him. I am in the 12th NJ, so along with that interest and that Postles was a direct ancestor of mine. How could you miss a Metal of honor winner?????? the captured Miss boys said they shot at him the whole time and that he was one brave Galloper. Should I trust your article if you missed this important part of the event…Thanks for honoring a metal of honer recipient.

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