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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-why-the-irish-fought-for-the-union.htm#comment-787287</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Welch, a decent article with some exception. 

&quot;Although a smattering of Irish Catholics had lived in America since the colonial period, there was no significant immigration to the United States until the catastrophe of the Potato Famine (1845-1853) set it in motion.&quot;

You should correct this error, for it misleads The People.  Google &quot;England&#039;s Irish Catholic Slaves&quot; for a more accurate account.  From the 1620s (when my lineage escaped Scotland for Country Cork, Ireland, in order to remain Catholic and survive) the English Monarcy had been invading Ireland. Their (my) people were taken and shipped about the world, in order to tend the King&#039;s farms. 

So bad was the Irish - English War in 1640, that of 1.6 Million Irish residents, 600,000 were killed, with another 300,000 sent abroad as slaves.  

By 1650, there were more Irish Catholic slaves in America than there were English colonial farm owners.  

And I also take exception with your use of the phrase &quot;Potato Famine&quot; -- unless famines are forced upon a population after ports are blocked by a foreign nation, who also seized the farm land.  

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair admitted to the King&#039;s Genocide in Ireland during the mid 1800s, so it would be kind to be more accurate, and offer a correction to your &quot;story.&quot;  

Finally, though England may have stopped the King&#039;s trade in the early 1800s relative African slaves,  they sure didn&#039;t end their Irish Catholic slave trade.  They even figured out to breed the African Slaves with Irish females in order to sell their off-spring.  Just ask Shaq O&#039;Neal... 

&quot;If we forget the lessons of the past, we are doomed to repeat them&quot; and GOD knows no one wants a repeat of that type history.  

As it were, Catholics are the largest denomination, not only here in America, but in the World.  Combined with other sects, and Christians are FAR more numerous than even the Muslims.  

Have a blessed New Year! 

PS Read</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Welch, a decent article with some exception. </p>
<p>&#034;Although a smattering of Irish Catholics had lived in America since the colonial period, there was no significant immigration to the United States until the catastrophe of the Potato Famine (1845-1853) set it in motion.&#034;</p>
<p>You should correct this error, for it misleads The People.  Google &#034;England&#039;s Irish Catholic Slaves&#034; for a more accurate account.  From the 1620s (when my lineage escaped Scotland for Country Cork, Ireland, in order to remain Catholic and survive) the English Monarcy had been invading Ireland. Their (my) people were taken and shipped about the world, in order to tend the King&#039;s farms. </p>
<p>So bad was the Irish &#8211; English War in 1640, that of 1.6 Million Irish residents, 600,000 were killed, with another 300,000 sent abroad as slaves.  </p>
<p>By 1650, there were more Irish Catholic slaves in America than there were English colonial farm owners.  </p>
<p>And I also take exception with your use of the phrase &#034;Potato Famine&#034; &#8212; unless famines are forced upon a population after ports are blocked by a foreign nation, who also seized the farm land.  </p>
<p>UK Prime Minister Tony Blair admitted to the King&#039;s Genocide in Ireland during the mid 1800s, so it would be kind to be more accurate, and offer a correction to your &#034;story.&#034;  </p>
<p>Finally, though England may have stopped the King&#039;s trade in the early 1800s relative African slaves,  they sure didn&#039;t end their Irish Catholic slave trade.  They even figured out to breed the African Slaves with Irish females in order to sell their off-spring.  Just ask Shaq O&#039;Neal&#8230; </p>
<p>&#034;If we forget the lessons of the past, we are doomed to repeat them&#034; and GOD knows no one wants a repeat of that type history.  </p>
<p>As it were, Catholics are the largest denomination, not only here in America, but in the World.  Combined with other sects, and Christians are FAR more numerous than even the Muslims.  </p>
<p>Have a blessed New Year! </p>
<p>PS Read</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-why-the-irish-fought-for-the-union.htm#comment-787285</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Wild Irish Geese&quot; 

Irish people sent around the globe as slaves -- which this article seems to ignore. 

By 1650, there were 300,000 Irish Catholic slaves in America alone, even more people than the English colonials had tending their farms. 

And they didn&#039;t cost a dime.... but were taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;The Wild Irish Geese&#034; </p>
<p>Irish people sent around the globe as slaves &#8212; which this article seems to ignore. </p>
<p>By 1650, there were 300,000 Irish Catholic slaves in America alone, even more people than the English colonials had tending their farms. </p>
<p>And they didn&#039;t cost a dime&#8230;. but were taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-why-the-irish-fought-for-the-union.htm#comment-787283</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Celt, but you are incorrect.  The name &quot;Fighting Irish&quot; came about from the Civil War. It evolved from &quot;New York&#039;s Fighting 69th&quot; (part of the Irish Brigade).  I know it true because my decedents fought for Col. Corcoran.  

And Notre Dame became most notorious, after their students defeated the KKK in the 1920s. Google &quot;Notre Dame Vs the KKK&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Celt, but you are incorrect.  The name &#034;Fighting Irish&#034; came about from the Civil War. It evolved from &#034;New York&#039;s Fighting 69th&#034; (part of the Irish Brigade).  I know it true because my decedents fought for Col. Corcoran.  </p>
<p>And Notre Dame became most notorious, after their students defeated the KKK in the 1920s. Google &#034;Notre Dame Vs the KKK&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Spirit &#38; Heritage In Song &#8211; &#8220;We Will Fight For Uncle Sam&#8221; &#8211; circa 1860 &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spirit &#38; Heritage In Song &#8211; &#8220;We Will Fight For Uncle Sam&#8221; &#8211; circa 1860 &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more of the Irish involved in the Civil War at &#8220;America&#8217;s Civil War: Why the Irish Fought for the Union&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more of the Irish involved in the Civil War at &#034;America&#039;s Civil War: Why the Irish Fought for the Union&#034; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Roark</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>03/10/11 Commend the Author for a good general comprehensive treatment of this subject. Certainly, a broader coverage of the Irish immigrants participation in the Civil War (North and South) would be insightful but also allow more information to expand the understanding of the soldiers&#039; contributions, motivations, and culture.

For example, mostly Irish Ohio Regts from Cincinnati; Illinois Regts from Chicago (23rd/24th); independent Companies like the &quot;Jasper Greens&quot; form Savannah, GA; the 2nd LA Regt form Baton Rouge; and 24th GA have well documented records.

Many thousands of Irish immigrant soldiers also served in other non-Irish or mixed military units (North and South) like my ancestor who served with the 30th Mass Vol Inf Regt in the Gulf and Vicksburg campaigns (1862-2863) and the Veteran (Invalid) Reserve Corps.

D-Dory Cap&#039;n</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>03/10/11 Commend the Author for a good general comprehensive treatment of this subject. Certainly, a broader coverage of the Irish immigrants participation in the Civil War (North and South) would be insightful but also allow more information to expand the understanding of the soldiers&#039; contributions, motivations, and culture.</p>
<p>For example, mostly Irish Ohio Regts from Cincinnati; Illinois Regts from Chicago (23rd/24th); independent Companies like the &#034;Jasper Greens&#034; form Savannah, GA; the 2nd LA Regt form Baton Rouge; and 24th GA have well documented records.</p>
<p>Many thousands of Irish immigrant soldiers also served in other non-Irish or mixed military units (North and South) like my ancestor who served with the 30th Mass Vol Inf Regt in the Gulf and Vicksburg campaigns (1862-2863) and the Veteran (Invalid) Reserve Corps.</p>
<p>D-Dory Cap&#039;n</p>
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		<title>By: m cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>m cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fight irish was use by the french king in the 1706
for his war  with the england</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fight irish was use by the french king in the 1706<br />
for his war  with the england</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Celt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Celt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian:

No, that is just a legend.  The term &quot;Fighting Irish&quot; didn&#039;t come into vogue until the 1920&#039;s.   Per Notre Dame: &quot;&quot;The term &#039;Fighting Irish&#039; has been applied to Notre Dame teams for years. It first attached itself years ago when the school, comparatively unknown, sent its athletic teams away to play in another city ...At that time the title &#039;Fighting Irish&#039; held no glory or prestige ... &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian:</p>
<p>No, that is just a legend.  The term &#034;Fighting Irish&#034; didn&#039;t come into vogue until the 1920&#039;s.   Per Notre Dame: &#034;&#034;The term &#039;Fighting Irish&#039; has been applied to Notre Dame teams for years. It first attached itself years ago when the school, comparatively unknown, sent its athletic teams away to play in another city &#8230;At that time the title &#039;Fighting Irish&#039; held no glory or prestige &#8230; &#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Celt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Celt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Although a smattering of Irish Catholics had lived in America since the colonial period, there was no significant immigration to the United States until the catastrophe of the Potato Famine (1845-1853) set it in motion.&quot; 

This unfortunately is an old chestnut, the results of New England Yankee historians of the turn of the century who feared all immigrants, that refuses to die.  Remember that in all states prior to the revolution, even Maryland which was founded as a Catholic refuge, banned Catholicism so the number of Catholics in the colonies is difficult to measure.  Immigrant ships from Ireland were required to stop in England first, on arriving in America they have been misidentified as &quot;English&quot;.  Commodore John Barry,  Colonel  Stephen Moylan etc were Irish Catholics.  

Finally, why do we continue to segregate Irish Immigrants by religion anyway?  We talk about German Immigrants without dividing them into Prussian Lutherans  or Bavarian Catholics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Although a smattering of Irish Catholics had lived in America since the colonial period, there was no significant immigration to the United States until the catastrophe of the Potato Famine (1845-1853) set it in motion.&#034; </p>
<p>This unfortunately is an old chestnut, the results of New England Yankee historians of the turn of the century who feared all immigrants, that refuses to die.  Remember that in all states prior to the revolution, even Maryland which was founded as a Catholic refuge, banned Catholicism so the number of Catholics in the colonies is difficult to measure.  Immigrant ships from Ireland were required to stop in England first, on arriving in America they have been misidentified as &#034;English&#034;.  Commodore John Barry,  Colonel  Stephen Moylan etc were Irish Catholics.  </p>
<p>Finally, why do we continue to segregate Irish Immigrants by religion anyway?  We talk about German Immigrants without dividing them into Prussian Lutherans  or Bavarian Catholics?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard a legend associated with the Irish Brigade, Father Colby and the University of Notre. I heard that Notre Dame became the &quot;fighting irish&quot; because of Father Colby&#039;s association with the Brigade in the war and after the fact that after the war he became a president of the university.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard a legend associated with the Irish Brigade, Father Colby and the University of Notre. I heard that Notre Dame became the &#034;fighting irish&#034; because of Father Colby&#039;s association with the Brigade in the war and after the fact that after the war he became a president of the university.</p>
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