Comments on: America’s Civil War: Why the Irish Fought for the Union http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-why-the-irish-fought-for-the-union.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:31:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Proud Celt http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-why-the-irish-fought-for-the-union.htm/comment-page-1#comment-120154 Proud Celt Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:50:13 +0000 #comment-120154 Brian: No, that is just a legend. The term "Fighting Irish" didn't come into vogue until the 1920's. Per Notre Dame: ""The term 'Fighting Irish' has been applied to Notre Dame teams for years. It first attached itself years ago when the school, comparatively unknown, sent its athletic teams away to play in another city ...At that time the title 'Fighting Irish' held no glory or prestige ... " Brian:

No, that is just a legend. The term “Fighting Irish” didn’t come into vogue until the 1920’s. Per Notre Dame: “”The term ‘Fighting Irish’ has been applied to Notre Dame teams for years. It first attached itself years ago when the school, comparatively unknown, sent its athletic teams away to play in another city …At that time the title ‘Fighting Irish’ held no glory or prestige … “

]]> By: Proud Celt http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-why-the-irish-fought-for-the-union.htm/comment-page-1#comment-120149 Proud Celt Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:40:40 +0000 #comment-120149 "Although a smattering of Irish Catholics had lived in America since the colonial period, there was no significant immigration to the United States until the catastrophe of the Potato Famine (1845-1853) set it in motion." This unfortunately is an old chestnut, the results of New England Yankee historians of the turn of the century who feared all immigrants, that refuses to die. Remember that in all states prior to the revolution, even Maryland which was founded as a Catholic refuge, banned Catholicism so the number of Catholics in the colonies is difficult to measure. Immigrant ships from Ireland were required to stop in England first, on arriving in America they have been misidentified as "English". Commodore John Barry, Colonel Stephen Moylan etc were Irish Catholics. Finally, why do we continue to segregate Irish Immigrants by religion anyway? We talk about German Immigrants without dividing them into Prussian Lutherans or Bavarian Catholics? “Although a smattering of Irish Catholics had lived in America since the colonial period, there was no significant immigration to the United States until the catastrophe of the Potato Famine (1845-1853) set it in motion.”

This unfortunately is an old chestnut, the results of New England Yankee historians of the turn of the century who feared all immigrants, that refuses to die. Remember that in all states prior to the revolution, even Maryland which was founded as a Catholic refuge, banned Catholicism so the number of Catholics in the colonies is difficult to measure. Immigrant ships from Ireland were required to stop in England first, on arriving in America they have been misidentified as “English”. Commodore John Barry, Colonel Stephen Moylan etc were Irish Catholics.

Finally, why do we continue to segregate Irish Immigrants by religion anyway? We talk about German Immigrants without dividing them into Prussian Lutherans or Bavarian Catholics?

]]> By: Brian Logan http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-why-the-irish-fought-for-the-union.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2073 Brian Logan Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:41:18 +0000 #comment-2073 I have heard a legend associated with the Irish Brigade, Father Colby and the University of Notre. I heard that Notre Dame became the "fighting irish" because of Father Colby's association with the Brigade in the war and after the fact that after the war he became a president of the university. I have heard a legend associated with the Irish Brigade, Father Colby and the University of Notre. I heard that Notre Dame became the “fighting irish” because of Father Colby’s association with the Brigade in the war and after the fact that after the war he became a president of the university.

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