Comments on: Air Force Colonel Jacksel 'Jack' Broughton & Air Force General John D. 'Jack' Lavelle: Testing the Rules of Engagement During the Vietnam War http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:36:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Staggs89 http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-782220 Staggs89 Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:30:02 +0000 #comment-782220 Thank you Jack Broughton for your candor in "Going Downtown"! It really opened my eyes to what was really happening to our fighter pilots over there! I share your utter disgust with the way you and others like you were treated by the Air force brass during the Vietnam war. God help us all! Thank you Jack Broughton for your candor in "Going Downtown"! It really opened my eyes to what was really happening to our fighter pilots over there! I share your utter disgust with the way you and others like you were treated by the Air force brass during the Vietnam war.

God help us all!

]]> By: Broughton http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-668592 Broughton Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:28:10 +0000 #comment-668592 Any additional information on the Broughton family. Any additional information on the Broughton family.

]]> By: rarebear http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-604602 rarebear Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:22:08 +0000 #comment-604602 sagesource, how do you plan to beat the Taliban ? you must have withessed 911, London, Madrid to name a few religion inspired attacks... the fact is that there is a grand conspiracy.. the US and Europe harbour the scouts of a new world order... sagesource, how do you plan to beat the Taliban ?
you must have withessed 911, London, Madrid to name a few religion inspired attacks…
the fact is that there is a grand conspiracy.. the US and Europe harbour the scouts of a new world order…

]]> By: sagesource http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-441420 sagesource Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:53:46 +0000 #comment-441420 Some wars are not winnable. The clown who doesn't recognize that is the true soldier killer. Of course soldiers think that violence will always prevail. We pay them to have that attitude and to specialize in violence, and then we put civilian commanders above them. Why? Because international politics is more than violence and there are conflicts and issues where a more violent response will make the situation worse, not better. The harm done to America's reputation by the Vietnam war was far greater than the harm that would have been done if Vietnam had gone communist early. There was no great "communist conspiracy." The Russians and the Chinese hated and despised each other, and the Vietnamese loathed the Chinese, for having invaded them over and over for the past two thousand years. They couldn't work together for five minutes without falling out. Whoever thought they were all in a grand conspiracy was a lunatic. Some wars are not winnable. The clown who doesn't recognize that is the true soldier killer. Of course soldiers think that violence will always prevail. We pay them to have that attitude and to specialize in violence, and then we put civilian commanders above them. Why? Because international politics is more than violence and there are conflicts and issues where a more violent response will make the situation worse, not better. The harm done to America's reputation by the Vietnam war was far greater than the harm that would have been done if Vietnam had gone communist early. There was no great "communist conspiracy." The Russians and the Chinese hated and despised each other, and the Vietnamese loathed the Chinese, for having invaded them over and over for the past two thousand years. They couldn't work together for five minutes without falling out. Whoever thought they were all in a grand conspiracy was a lunatic.

]]> By: sagesource http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-441415 sagesource Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:45:49 +0000 #comment-441415 Didn't anyone read any Vietnamese history back then? The Vietnamese have been tossing foreigners out of their country for the last two thousand years or so, and they always win in the end. At least America has only tried controlling the place once; the Chinese have done it again and again and again, and failed again and again and again. Think the Irish and the British and you'll be in the same ballpark as the Vietnamese and the Chinese. Didn't anyone read any Vietnamese history back then? The Vietnamese have been tossing foreigners out of their country for the last two thousand years or so, and they always win in the end. At least America has only tried controlling the place once; the Chinese have done it again and again and again, and failed again and again and again. Think the Irish and the British and you'll be in the same ballpark as the Vietnamese and the Chinese.

]]> By: Subsailor http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-410438 Subsailor Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:26:15 +0000 #comment-410438 Admiral Jackie Fisher (Royal Navy) said "The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility." The war in Vietnam (and our current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan) prove this adage to be very true. Admiral Jackie Fisher (Royal Navy) said "The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility." The war in Vietnam (and our current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan) prove this adage to be very true.

]]> By: David http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-372601 David Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:46:31 +0000 #comment-372601 God Bless the Netherlands! God Bless the Netherlands!

]]> By: KriegsHetzer http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-348529 KriegsHetzer Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:48:31 +0000 #comment-348529 Great post. Thing I don't understand about Jane Fonda et al saying that people in USAF were "professional killers" is it doesn't make any sense. That's like whining that exterminators are "professional killers". I must be autistic, because I don't see how that is an insult. If they weren't "professional" a hell of a lot more officers than a few would have gotten in trouble. Shame a couple good folk got screwed by politics. Great post.

Thing I don't understand about Jane Fonda et al saying that people in USAF were "professional killers" is it doesn't make any sense. That's like whining that exterminators are "professional killers". I must be autistic, because I don't see how that is an insult. If they weren't "professional" a hell of a lot more officers than a few would have gotten in trouble.

Shame a couple good folk got screwed by politics.

]]> By: John Cotseres http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-345393 John Cotseres Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:22:31 +0000 #comment-345393 I'm trying to locate family of Karl W. Richter, he from Holly Michigan. Can you help me out? I'm trying to locate family of Karl W. Richter, he from Holly Michigan.
Can you help me out?

]]> By: Jeff http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm#comment-299791 Jeff Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:12:52 +0000 #comment-299791 It's sad but true that throughout the history of the USA that we have mistreated our patriots so.Just look at the history in our military concerning such men as Charles(Swede) B Momsen,Lewis (Chesty) B Puller, William (Billy) Mitchell. They are willing to sacrifice their careers just to make shure that the right outcomes happen for our great country, regardless of their loss. How truly blessed we are as a people because of their greatness and forward thinking!!! God Bless the U.S.A.!!! It's sad but true that throughout the history of the USA that we have mistreated our patriots so.Just look at the history in our military concerning such men as Charles(Swede) B Momsen,Lewis (Chesty) B Puller, William (Billy) Mitchell. They are willing to sacrifice their careers just to make shure that the right outcomes happen for our great country, regardless of their loss. How truly blessed we are as a people because of their greatness and forward thinking!!! God Bless the U.S.A.!!!

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