Comments on: Air Force Colonel Jacksel ‘Jack’ Broughton & Air Force General John D. ‘Jack’ Lavelle: Testing the Rules of Engagement During the Vietnam War http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm From the World's Largest History Magazine Publisher Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: William Ridge http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm/comment-page-1#comment-147090 William Ridge Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:29:02 +0000 #comment-147090 Nothing has changed since the days of the VN War. Nothing that is except the stinking politicians running the country and orchestrating the Iraqi and Afgan wars from Washington, it’s worse now than ever. The pilots, equipment, men, armor and other essentials to run a war are much better these days than those of years ago. SOS happening today happened 40 years ago. To make matters worse, the stinking Generals and Admirals are boot licking idiots without spines talking shit about diversity (the idiot general after Fort Hood and the other idiot General W. Clark) YGTBSM. Even with the ROE’s, I am sure the fighter jocks of today are operating within there own rules of engagement as we did 40 years ago. I hope some stinking politician reads this, both sides of the aisle, your time is coming, you bet be checking six you Whiskey Deltas. If you won’t step aside with the ballot, then the bullet will get you. Our constitution is the best on earth! It makes one sick to see what these people are doing to our fighting men and women. Nothing has changed since the days of the VN War. Nothing that is except the stinking politicians running the country and orchestrating the Iraqi and Afgan wars from Washington, it’s worse now than ever. The pilots, equipment, men, armor and other essentials to run a war are much better these days than those of years ago. SOS happening today happened 40 years ago. To make matters worse, the stinking Generals and Admirals are boot licking idiots without spines talking shit about diversity (the idiot general after Fort Hood and the other idiot General W. Clark) YGTBSM. Even with the ROE’s, I am sure the fighter jocks of today are operating within there own rules of engagement as we did 40 years ago. I hope some stinking politician reads this, both sides of the aisle, your time is coming, you bet be checking six you Whiskey Deltas. If you won’t step aside with the ballot, then the bullet will get you. Our constitution is the best on earth! It makes one sick to see what these people are doing to our fighting men and women.

]]> By: Ed Ruff, Kennewick, WA http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111406 Ed Ruff, Kennewick, WA Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:15:30 +0000 #comment-111406 To Jack Broughton and Jack LaVelle, wherever you are: Thank you for striving your utmost to change irrational policy directives. Thank you for striving to save the lives of so many airmen who were sent up North to do the impossible. Thank you for telling the story of their determined courage, sacrifice, despair, anger, hopeless frustration, and senseless loss. Resolved: Never Again. Never Again. NEVER AGAIN. To Jack Broughton and Jack LaVelle, wherever you are:

Thank you for striving your utmost to change irrational policy directives. Thank you for striving to save the lives of so many airmen who were sent up North to do the impossible.

Thank you for telling the story of their determined courage, sacrifice, despair, anger, hopeless frustration, and senseless loss.

Resolved: Never Again. Never Again. NEVER AGAIN.

]]> By: Rarebear http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm/comment-page-1#comment-83217 Rarebear Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:56:44 +0000 #comment-83217 I am a citizen of the Netherlands and have read a lot about the airwar in Vietnam, being an Airforce man myself I still cannot believe to this day that the war was so mismanaged by the pencil pushers in Washington... My view is that when a nation goes to war, you have to do it totally.. Germany was not defeated by weak sisters but by men who fought at 100 % What happens now in Afghanistan looks as if there was no lesson learned in the past !!! You cannot beat the Taliban by drinking tea with them.. the only thing they understand is violence ! God help America and its allies !!! I am a citizen of the Netherlands and have read a lot about the airwar in Vietnam, being an Airforce man myself I still cannot believe to this day that the war was so mismanaged by the pencil pushers in Washington…
My view is that when a nation goes to war, you have to do it totally.. Germany was not defeated by weak sisters but by men
who fought at 100 %
What happens now in Afghanistan looks as if there was no lesson learned in the past !!!
You cannot beat the Taliban by drinking tea with them.. the only thing they understand is violence !
God help America and its allies !!!

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]]> By: Fight the Future » Blog Archive » McCain’s Honor http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13756 Fight the Future » Blog Archive » McCain’s Honor Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:48:11 +0000 #comment-13756 [...] Air Force Colonel Jacksel Jack Broughton & Air Force General John D. Jack Lavelle: Testing the ... HistoryNet.com. Retrieved on October 11, [...] [...] Air Force Colonel Jacksel Jack Broughton & Air Force General John D. Jack Lavelle: Testing the … HistoryNet.com. Retrieved on October 11, [...]

]]> By: Barry Urry http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13515 Barry Urry Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:13:36 +0000 #comment-13515 Great article. I have also been reading several books by Kenneth Timmerman, that describe similar attitudes and events. My heart goes out to Gen. Lavelle. He was just the man we needed at the time. It's too bad that the "Peter-Principle" is so widely accepted and used in every aspect of government. God Bless America, and God Help America. Great article. I have also been reading several books by Kenneth Timmerman, that describe similar attitudes and events. My heart goes out to Gen. Lavelle. He was just the man we needed at the time. It’s too bad that the “Peter-Principle” is so widely accepted and used in every aspect of government. God Bless America, and God Help America.

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